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So basically sleeve the shaft with washers, then one big washer, larger than the hole which will clamp it all together??
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Chapter 2... Micra Dot Rising To The Top
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Ahh, was given the option to get the rubber with bearing, but knew there was already a bearing on it so just got the top mount
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Where am I meant to get a steel sleeve with a hole that size but the outer large enough?
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Or I just get one big washer, make a few splices in it and bend them down so it will clamp on to the rubber on the mount... But then it will be hollow between the bearing up to the bolt, do not sure if that's a good idea
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Then another tube 15mm I.d upto the next thickest o.d?
h701micra
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Why?
Or do you mean in place of the would-be rubber locater
frank
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Because thats the bumpstop
h701micra
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Bumpstop is in the spring on shaft :/Because thats the bumpstop
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That rubber attached to your top mount is the rubber locater I was on about.
Seeing it like makes it easier to understand what you mean
One of those would definitely be an idea
Mine has the thrust bearing on the top mount directly as its a perfect fit
so its setup just like the oe micra shockThat's effect I'd be after on these
frank
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i guess he could actually use the top spring cup instead, as long as it is suspended about 5mm below the rubber when assembled (he would have a lot of thread sticking out the top tho !)
the bearing fits down into the rubber (that way up in the pic) then the alloy bit goes on next (turned over in the pic)
the bearing fits down into the rubber (that way up in the pic) then the alloy bit goes on next (turned over in the pic)
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I have aeound 15mm poking outthe top of minei guess he could actually use the top spring cup instead, as long as it is suspended about 5mm below the rubber when assembled (he would have a lot of thread sticking out the top tho !)
the bearing fits down into the rubber (that way up in the pic) then the alloy bit goes on next (turned over in the pic)
Problem being on the smaller shaft neck before the main shaft
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Just been to b&q and I'm gona try this method, got the spring cup with the built in beating sitting on the spring, the bearing sits on a shoulder on the shaft.. Then got the top mount on top of that, got 10 big washers to fill the gap to stop any side to side movement, 1 big thick square washer to sit on top of it all which then the nut will clamp it all down
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Just realised that that big washer probably won't go through the hole at the top on the car, so il probably have to put that washer and nut on after it's all in?
frank
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yeh man
and i hope you have power steering luca
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yeh man
Don't say that.... I don't, how's that??
frank
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you need an air gap between that rubber buffer i pointed out eh
and does it turn freely ?
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i haven't tightened the bolts up yet as il probably need to do that once the struts in the car, but the rubber buffer is sitting on the spring cup, its basically sitting around the bearing..
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i just noticed that your top mount is slightly different to what i got
The one i got hasn't got that shoulder to close the gap, mines just the whole width right through
The one i got hasn't got that shoulder to close the gap, mines just the whole width right through
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What if i put one of those big square washers under that mount?
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So that it holds it up and it just sits on the bearing?
frank
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the thrust bearing has to be fitted over the shaft with the small hole at the top, and the spring has to be pushing upwards onto the bottom of that thrust bearing, else you will get heavy steering.
and the bump face under the rubber surround has to have about 5mm clearance, so that it only makes contact when hitting a pothole
and the bump face under the rubber surround has to have about 5mm clearance, so that it only makes contact when hitting a pothole
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Hmm, so the big washer won't work then? Do I need to get the other part to this mount too then? The part with the bearing then fit them together?
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Il send him a text and ask him to shed some knowledge haha
Was it really rough?
Was it really rough?
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Do you have a pic of this 5 mm air gap ? Not quite sure what you mean by it , do you mean when fully tightened there should be about 5mm free play in the mount (up and down)? Or that the mount rubbers shouldn't touch the spring cup with a 5mm gap?
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i don't have that bit below where the gap is meant to be.. i just have the top mount and the spring cap... so when i put them together the mount just sits over the bearing, so the weight of the car will be pressing the rubbers onto the spring cap... so the only other way i can see is to make the top mount sit onto that large washer, which then will sit on the bearing.. so the weight of the car will be on the bearing..
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what sort of spacer?
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why between the square washer and the mount?
surely that will have the same effect as just sitting on the square washer but just a bit higher?
surely that will have the same effect as just sitting on the square washer but just a bit higher?
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what exactly does the air gap do to help with potholes??
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this is frying my brain hahaha
WRONG INFO,,,,,,,,,,,,,once their on your stuck with them for a little whileyou could ask the previous owner how it rode with this set up,,,,,,i think he removed it sharpish
but yeh try before you buy
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WRONG INFO,,,,,,,,,,,,,once their on your stuck with them for a little while
but yeh try before you buy
How will I be stuck with them? Il still have the ones I got now as spares intact
. How freely should the top mount turn when fully assembled and loaded with spring tension? Also roughly how much thread have you all got showing for your set ups? As a base to start off with
Enuo
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Thats why my white car had bonnet raisers hahaif you have too much thread showing you get 2 nipples appear on the top of your bonnet luca
