Porks bike carbs and boost project

[pork]

Ooooops!! Haha, 1342

 

[frank]

and the lambda has 1 central signal wire, 2 heater wires, and earthed via the body eh

 

[pork]

Yeah, ecu jus needs these 2 wires apparently.

Everything else seem ok?

 

[frank]

Yeah, ecu jus needs these 2 wires apparently.

no preheat feature neil ?

 

[pork]

That's all done by the lc1 controller, this is jus signal to ecu

 

[frank]

That's all done by the lc1 controller, this is jus signal to ecu

so you,re just gonna run the wideband only ? and no maf ?

 

[pork]

It's got built in map sensor

 

[frank]

It's got built in map sensor

ahh yes you gonna shield the sensor wires mate ?

 

[pork]

Yeah, it's on the shopping list

I know you don't know the pin outs, but as far you can tell, looks ok, gunna start wiring up as soon as I find connectors for coil-on-plugs

 

[Enuo]

You could try shielding the sensor wires with aluminium tape then wrap in insulation tape. As a temporary measure of course.

 

[pork]

That's all ok, il stick it on the company account at city electricals lol

 

[frank]

looks ok to me neil why semi sequential injectors tho ?

 

[pork]

Jus to get it going mate, then, once I've figured it all out, fit the cam sensor plate, then set it up

 

[frank]

dunno if you can run wasted spark with coilpacks tho ?

 

[pork]

Already asked, and yes I can with this

 

[frank]

Already asked, and yes I can with this

with siamesed wiring tho ?

 

[frank]

the way you have it wired the coils will be firing on every tdc and bdc, so effectively running @ 14krpm ! (and exceeding their dwell period ?)

 

[pork]

The ecu has ability to run 12 cylinders on wasted spark, I'm jus picking up the parallel ignition coil, so they are paired up .....if that makes sense lol

 

[l_jonez]

With regard to the shielding of the wiring a lot of people use twin core microphone cable as its shielded.

 

[frank]

The ecu has ability to run 12 cylinders on wasted spark, I'm jus picking up the parallel ignition coil, so they are paired up .....if that makes sense lol

the ecu can do it np, i dont know if the coils can run frequency x2 tho ? wont effect lower rpm i guess

 

[pork]

Aahhh ok, get ya...well there's only one way to find out lol. Will have it all sequential later on

 

[Sdperkins]

Love this build... very inspiring. Wish I had the skill, knowledge and money to do this!!

 

[h701micra]

Neil just dives in and hope it works... legendary stuff

 

[pork]

Is this needed now ?

 

[h701micra]

I'd guess so :/

Wait... gone coil pack now? Then no

 

[frank]

nah, thats just your ballast resistor neil

 

[pork]

So bin it, cut wires back....or do they need to be hoined

 

[frank]

it drops the voltage to the coil (apart from during startup/cranking), so bin it all

 

[pork]

Right (lack of mechanical knowledge gunna show now)

On the crank pulley, there's a few little notches, and there's a little pin on the block, does one off the little notches dictate TDC?

 

[frank]

Right (lack of mechanical knowledge gunna show now)

On the crank pulley, there's a few little notches, and there's a little pin on the block, does one off the little notches dictate TDC?

the 2nd from the left (yellow) one is tdc neil

 

[SirChris]

Right (lack of mechanical knowledge gunna show now)

On the crank pulley, there's a few little notches, and there's a little pin on the block, does one off the little notches dictate TDC?

dont lol, i had to ask the same thing.. still i struggle to be able to tell which marks are which and what ones I need lol

 

[pork]

Haha, least I'm not the only one.

 

[pork]

Only reason I ask is I can mount the trigger wheel in any position, but it's helpful if the missing tooth is it tdc

 

[SirChris]

Surely it would have to be a leading or trailing edge or a tooth?

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[pork]

Apparently I can set it all up in the tuner studio software

 

[SirChris]

I would of though just placing the tdc in the centre of the missing tooth wouldnt be very precise. Its working on the idecation that either tooth just disappeared or the tooth just appeared to signify a call for an event

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[pork]

Ir thought the missing tooth was there to tell the ecu that 1 revolution has completed

 

[SirChris]

Yes but the edges of that gap are where that event is called no? Not the centre of the missing tooth. Am I talking out my arse here

 

[pork]

No idea mate! I still think it's witchcraft and voodoo that controls it sll

 

[SirChris]

I don't think I am being silly but I don't want you to hold me to anything. mr skinner has done the trigger wheel setup I believe, I think my theory is correct but whether the software will account for that or the sensor accounts for the gap. I dunno.

 

[SirChris]

See usually I would wait for frank and Enuo to tell me otherwise. They just insist on liking things and hiding in the dark

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[pork]

Here's what bloke said when I asked about trigger wheel position

'Hi Neil,
Again this makes no difference as the base angle is set by the software. Ideally you'll want it at tdc just so you know for reference but it's not the end of the world if you don't. Basically once it's mounted, as long as you have a timing mark on the pulley you can use, just use a timing light to set a fixed timing at say 15 degrees advance and adjust the trigger offset in tunerstudio so that the timing light flashes at 15 degrees also.

Regards
Mije'

 

[frank]

i think you should get a signal like this neil, and you sync it with a timing gun (15 deg btdc for example) so that the ecu and gun are both running 15 deg.
then compile the ignition table so that the timing is advanced and retarded to where you want it

 

[pork]

That sounds right .......il have to wait to have a play with it all before it sticks in my brain

 

[pork]

I can't find these anywhere!

They are the plugs that go on the cga3de coil on plug things.....I need 4 of them.... No motor factors have them, internet only brings up company's from America, and none in local scrappy.

Can't go any further without tgem

 

[SirChris]

I am going to a scrappy friday if ypu want me to have a look

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[pork]

Yeah mate, if you don't mind!

Found them on eBay.... But they are £9 each !!!

 

[frank]

little spade connectors dude

 

[pork]

Hahaha!!!

Of course!! Sometimes I jus forget the simple answers!

 

[SirChris]

will these connexctors be on he 1l facelift coils as well?