Help with reverse lights. No working.

[Maris Lels]

Hi folks, Car test failed. Reason, no reverse lights. Brought over to garage, they said switch has to be changed, but when they tried, they said, eventually there is problem in gearbox, as switch doesnt engages , when in reverse gear, so they advise change gearbox.... . Is it just trying rip off me, or it is common problem for k11 micras ? 1.l., petrol, '97.

Thanks.

 

[frank]

common problem maris, the pre-facelift 1.0 g/box switch is best left undisturbed !

 

[Maris Lels]

Anything we can do with it? Or thats gearbox has to be replaced? Or if i take off gearbox myself, possible fix that?

 

[frank]

members have has oil leak problems after trying to fit another switch onto those g/box,s mate (its a big round plastic switch/fitting)
i would fit a manual switch or mount a microswitch on the gearstick personally

 

[Maris Lels]

members have has oil leak problems after trying to fit another switch onto those g/box,s mate (its a big round plastic switch/fitting)
i would fit a manual switch or mount a microswitch on the gearstick personally

Any guides how to do it? Switch on gearstick sound plausible, any advice how and where to fit it?

 

[pollyp]

imo check the switch is working first (unplug from loom, multimeter across the 2-pin connector, toggle reverse gear on/off, does resistance go on/off?)

then check if the loom circuit is working (unplug sensor, IGN on, short the 2-pin connector of the loom to simulate a closed switch, check if reverse light is receiving 12v and lit)

 

[--alpina--]

My reverse light also don't work!! I know its the switch as I've done the tests, when I jump the 2 wires going to the switch my reverse light comes on!! Have thought of fitting a manual switch somewhere and also have thought of a micro switch as when you pit it in reverse it will engage for the reverse llights to come on!! Now if anyone has carried out a microswitch reverse lights that would be great if they could post up a simple diagrm of how the bracket is made or designed!

J

 

[r-reg-sr]

i aint done it but a switch under the interior gear stick covers should done it

 

[Maris Lels]

Hi folks, stripped wire under gearbox, and there is 4 wires, i think thats right wires, as there is only one plug in gearbox, and four wires goes out. there is black , black with blue, black with yellow and black with white. i followed to connecter, behind engine, and it plugs in connector with red, green yellow and black wires. which wires to join to see if power to light getting delivered.

black with yellow has 12 v. so what is the rest wires for ?

Thanks

 

[frank]

its a neutral and reverse light switch maris

 

[Maris Lels]

ok, never mind, after blowing fuse (idle) twice, i figured out, reverse light wires are black/yellow and black/white.

Just need to find out, how to make switch .. probably diy one to switch reverse light.

 

[Jen319]

My reverse light also don't work!! I know its the switch as I've done the tests, when I jump the 2 wires going to the switch my reverse light comes on!! Have thought of fitting a manual switch somewhere and also have thought of a micro switch as when you pit it in reverse it will engage for the reverse llights to come on!! Now if anyone has carried out a microswitch reverse lights that would be great if they could post up a simple diagrm of how the bracket is made or designed!

J

I had a manual switch on the dash in my K10...as it had this same fault...
was located on the flat bit to the left of the steering wheel
the previous owner hooked it up, so I can't help with fitting but it can be done

When we picked the car up it literally had a wall light switch plumbed into the dash, my dad swapped it for one of those little flicky switches
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toggle-Fl...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f11744aad
...like this one...only red

ETA: just remember to switch it off again when you set off LOL
you soon get into the habit of flicking in on and off again...in fact when I first got my K11 it took me about 3 weeks to stop reaching down to turn it on and off ^_^

 

[Maris Lels]

I had a manual switch on the dash in my K10...as it had this same fault...
was located on the flat bit to the left of the steering wheel
the previous owner hooked it up, so I can't help with fitting but it can be done

When we picked the car up it literally had a wall light switch plumbed into the dash, my dad swapped it for one of those little flicky switches
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toggle-Fl...arts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3f11744aad
...like this one...only red

ETA: just remember to switch it off again when you set off LOL
you soon get into the habit of flicking in on and off again...in fact when I first got my K11 it took me about 3 weeks to stop reaching down to turn it on and off ^_^

Would it be ok for manual reverse light switch for tests ?? would not it be on and off automatically when switch in reverse gear ??

 

[Jen319]

Well...When I had my K10 (2005) a reverse light wasn't even a a tested part in the MOT...so...it didn't even matter if it didn't work...
sorry...I know that's not very helpful

ETA: http://www.carsparefinder.co.uk/blog/the-mot-test-lighting/

...bloody new rules eh? <_<
It may be worth calling up the test centre and actually asking them if this would be an acceptable fix to pass the MOT?

 

[Jen319]

...Looks like you can't have a General Lee horn either

MOT Test of Horn

• Operation
• Control can be easily reached by the driver
• Loud enough
• Not a sequential multi-tone.

http://www.motester.co.uk/mot-information-for-motorists/mot-test-checks-list

MOT Test of Lights

• All lamps fitted must be working
• must illuminate with a single operation of the switch

illuminate with a single operation of the switch...doesn't say you can't move the switch

 

[h701micra]

You can move switches... have you seen my dashboard

So long as its easily operated by the driver in their normal seated position

 

[Maris Lels]

SO, some updates here, went shopping to maplin ,

switch itself -

with wires attached:

.... and then i just attached it with cable ties to the side of gearstick tunnel, on metal plate , which holds gearstick gator ... that plate is very soft metal, so with pliers could adjust any angle to make that paddle catch gearstick connection bolt only in reverse position.

rest of pictures -

thats it.

dont know how long it will be working, but should be enough to pass car test

 

[h701micra]

125v 3a... I fear that switch may melt on your 12v circuit. Cant remember the calculation but 0.3a is popping into my head as what that's capable of.
Relay?
Dont mean to complicate it for you or be awkward just dont want you having an electrical fire. Other than that fantastic work

 

[frank]

reverse bulb is 21w eh < 2amps

 

[h701micra]

reverse bulb is 21w eh < 2amps

Which would be ok on a 12v 3a switch
A 125v 3a switch is effectively a 12v 0.3a switch

 

[frank]

amps is amps aint it andy ?

 

[h701micra]

Pretty sure it changes through voltage. I may be wrong but that what I was taught
A lower voltage produces a higher current.

I haven't anything to physically test :/

 

[frank]

i think the labeling refers to max 3a and/or 125v mate

 

[h701micra]

i think the labeling refers to max 3a and/or 125v mate

Couldn't comment without seeing it I'm sure it'll be ok