Introduction + My K11

CMF_sodaniel

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ahhh turbo too much dosh! with a budget like yours I might be able to squeeze it in haha

next on the plate is Nismo engine mounts and all bushes
then in no particular order: matt black respray inside out, black depo headlamps, jdm march vlsd box (no idea where to find), more aggressive offset watanabes 14inch, carbon bonnet, etc etc too many... Gives me a headache thinking of all the money:(
 

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haha.. tru tru.. just to let you know.. some of the nismo k11 bushes are no longer made... as neither are the nismo lsds made anymore for the k11 vlsd box.. only for the cg10.. wtf? you won't find a box in australia.. i've searched every single wreckers for one.. so don't waste your time :) only place you'll get one is japan.. even then there rare as. try contacting gtrholic for his wattanabe's.. i think there +22 offset.. he's been umming and r-ing about getting new wheels... if someone's interested.. he'll sell :) unfortunetly you'll always beat me on the track (in the na car :D!) i'll never strip my car out as much as you have! .. i've got a few interesting mods up my sleeve, which i will be making available to the micra.com forumers for purchase in the not to distant future.. :), doing some r&d work first on my car to see how things go
 

CMF_sodaniel

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Thanks for the tips man... do you or 'holic have the engine mounts? Any good?

Yeah it's a shame those VLSD boxes are so damn hard to find... Is there any LSD that would bolt onto our boxes?

I'm not sure about wheels yet. Whether I should step up to 15 inch... I want to get that pumped out look, so I need something like +10-15. Maybe I will get 15s and use stretched street tires, leave the 14s and semis for track...

hey if one is your project car, and the other is your daily, then you can make do to strip on of them! :)

i'm going to take it easy now with mods, budget not allowing anything more atm...

Keep us updated with your interesting R&D!
 

CMF_turbo march-rolling shell

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yeh. we both have a set of nismo engine mounts.. i need another set for the blue car but, everything else is whiteline in it already, waiting on coilovers for it to arrive. don't think we really felt any difference with the mounts in holic's car... but we did quite a bit at once... i think we were to interested in what noises the turbo is making :) i've got a set of 16's but got 15's on the way.. i agree that 16's are to big for any sort of enthusiastic driving, but 14's just look like they belong on a wheelbarrow or something. 15's might be a good compromise i reckon. project car or not,... still got to have a full interior and a/c p/s as will be driven on the street more then anything.. don't want any un-neccessary attention from the po po.

every time i think.. 64.5kw.. damn, that's good, considering when a basic turbo setup makes 90kw.. with a decent intake manifold, computer, headwork and maybe a headgasket to up the comp, you'd be right on the tail of a turbo'd car... which is basically what i'm gonna try and do. stage one mods will hopefully turn the rollers to atleast what your running, but hoping for 70kw... i'd be stoked with that. that's heaps of power for such a little engine, and car.
 

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Yeah I'm sure you'll get there easy with some patience. Basically the next step up for me, is a lot of custom work and fabrication (like you said - intake mani, headwork etc etc), not things I can DIY like everything I have now, and the labour+love is going to cost a pretty penny. So I'm going to have to leave it for the time being. However, you have the know-how and tools to do that stuff, so good on you for taking that to your advantage. I would be heaps interested to see how much you could push out of an N/A set up too!

 

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Hey turbo,why don't you put together a basic turbo kit (extra injecter+piggback computer) that you can sell in parts or stages. So people with not alot of dough can get into the turbo game,you could sell them worldwide. And i no you could knock them up easy?

Which reminds me do you want fit/install my turbo kit?? Buddy

Also got the car back to from suspension shop and had a bent control arm from previuos accindent/owner,now with camber bolts and all balanced and aligned its handling pretty good,off course whiteline could not supply my antilift kit in time,typical
 

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"Hey turbo,why don't you put together a basic turbo kit (extra injecter+piggback computer) that you can sell in parts or stages. So people with not alot of dough can get into the turbo game,you could sell them worldwide. And i no you could knock them up easy?<BR><BR>Which reminds me do you want fit/install my turbo kit?? Buddy<BR><BR>Also got the car back to from suspension shop and had a bent control arm from previuos accindent/owner,now with camber bolts and all balanced and aligned its handling pretty good,off course whiteline could not supply my antilift kit in time,typical
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hmm.. a basic turbo kit eh? i don't do basic!.. i said my blue car would be basic.. 4 days of owning it, and it already looks like a repairable writeoff! i can make custom kits... but i don't do cheap.. i hate cheap ****, i'm not cheap, i'll charge whatever a workshop charges, but at the end of the day, you'll be getting speedflow and stainless, not enzed and rust for your money... i really don't think you have any idea on whats involved fitting that kit mate... its made to fit an non a/c car... so basically means new most of everything has to be made.. unless you wana get rid of your a/c which i don't think you do... next time you come round, bring your manifold, turbo and dump, mock it up in my red car, and we'll c how much of a c*nt its gonna be... only way i know to do a turbo kit on one of this little things is highmount due to a/c p/s... more then happy to take a look at it for you ... Buddy :)

whiteline are a bunch of redneck assholes, there stuff aint anything spesh, they know they can **** you around.. cause there the only people who make that sort of stuff.... dammit.. be patient mate :)
 

CMF_sodaniel

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LOL dont worry guys, off topic all you want it doesn't bother me

I've been thinking hard tonight, and I might be looking at selling soon... The car is pretty much complete to me.

The thing is to be honest, the car is too hardcore for most people... stiff **** suspension, loud, no comforts... certainly a car you wouldn't want to drive daily (and I do, it's fine for me)... but on the track, man this little thing rips no joke... With a capable driver, the lap times its potential of would beat an R33 turbo, be on par with a WRX impreza and close to a DC2 type-R (with your average joe driver)... I'm yet to take it down with the new set-up but it was already very impressive with NO power mods... doing about 1:19 on wakefield (stock micra... 1:25 ish)... The thing is, it's very easy to push the micra to the limit and drive at it... lap after lap you just punish it and the oil temp goes no where, brakes are still stopping when they need to, and tires are holding up... so when everyones pitting in or cooling down, you're still out there pushing! Fit an LSD and you have yourself one track toy:)

I bought this car for $6300 with basically major mods being suspension... bloody $2800 coilovers on this thing lol. But it was clean, no accident damage, no rust, straight as body and low k's. Spend maybe another $4500 ish on it after that, transformed the whole car again. I doubt I would find a car as much fun as this for that price, these micra things can cop a belting aye?

Funnily enough, I get a lot of compliments with this car... Just driving it on the street, some V8 commo guy gives me thumbs up and acknowledgement, people ask what it is and say how cool it is, the car definitely has character.

but yeah, at the end of the day, the car's are an absolute money pit... and leaving f/t work right now to go back to uni f/t ain't easy (that's why mods have to stop for now...), wouldn't mind paying off those debts either...

So much thinking done, don't know if I want to part with it, but I would sell if the right coin came.
 

CMF_Tony

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Even so Dan,the micras still in a state where its going to be reliable and cheaper to run than most cars. Seriously whats cheaper to buy and run than the micra? and it will be way more fun to run than anything else.
 

CMF_sodaniel

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Too right tony... one thing I love about the micra is you can do everything yourself... oil changes, fitting mods...all those little things that add up and make it more special to you. I learnt a lot during the ownership of this car. Definitely won't be able to find a replacement at the price I'd let her go for. (but I've got another car I can use anyway).
 

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you can do everything yourself on a more expensive car too, its just more scary when you stuff it up, or when something spits a gearbox etc

they won't be quite as cheap when parts start getting rare, but still an awesome little car to buy and own,

don't listen to what turbo tells you, its okay to want a car you can mod cheaply ;)
 

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smidge WROTE:

"you can do everything yourself on a more expensive car too, its just more scary when you stuff it up, or when something spits a gearbox etc<BR><BR>they won't be quite as cheap when parts start getting rare, but still an awesome little car to buy and own,<BR><BR>don't listen to what turbo tells you, its okay to want a car you can mod cheaply ;)
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never said there was anything wrong with doing cheap mods, just i don't do it, cause most times, its dodgy.... nothing sodaniel has done has been cheap... far from it
 

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i like the n/a route although it costs a little more at first but it ends up being cheaper in the long run. dont have to really worry about stripping gears or braking drive shafts and engine will most likely last a lot longer on N/A setup than a turbo.
 

CMF_lam.666

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it'd be a shame to sell it, sell your other car and keep the micra.

its not something common, and its a hoot to drive! and theres not one in Aus that looks as good as yours
 

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sodaniel where did you buy the cams from? im chasing that exact same set here in WA but cant find them,also in regards to the LSD boxes you can use the n13 VLSD unit in the GA16 pulsar boxes and the pulsar boxes fit the micra youd just have to source drive shafts
 

CMF_sodaniel

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Hey maat, you will find you can order the cams from most Jap import parts places, but these particular ones were ordered from perfectrun.com.au

I was thinking to use pulsar LSD box, but I'm sure the taller ratios will not be matched to the zippy N/A engine's powerband... it would be welcome on a turbo set up i'm sure, but I need the gears as close as possible.
 

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Hi Dan,

where can i order the tomei cams?

sodaniel WROTE:

"UPDATE

the n/a march has now been dynoed + tuned

(mod list as per first post)

Dropped the car off yesterday morning to Indy @ IS Motor Racing (rockdale) and the car had a full service + Tomei poncams installed + Dyno tune

Results below:

<img src="http://www.soasiandvd.com.au/files/dyno.jpg">

64.5kw @ 6500rpm (at the wheel figure) equivalent to roughly 81kw or 108hp @ engine (calculating at 20% drivetrain loss)

Stock = 55kw or 74hp at engine... which means an increase of roughly 46% from standard.

What can I say, I'm extremely happy with the figures (although not that high, this car was only 55kw @ flywheel standard right???). The dyno graph expresses how the car drives at the moment... it just pulls and pulls and pulls, no flat spots and very linear power delivery. My AFR is also on the spot too, without having to tinker around with fuel pressures.

Basically with Intake, 4-2-1 header, hi flow cat, 2 mandrel bent system, GA15 throttle body, GA15 injectors, cams, light flywheel, light wheels, the car was able to do 60kw @ wheel. But from additional tuning of the piggyback, Indy could manage to squeeze another 4.5kws...

The car idles at standard levels now and sounds SO LUMPY (it's actually very cool), and the mid range is so much meatier now. With such a light chassis, I'm really keen to take it back out to wakefield park now to see what lap times I can get (best was 1:19 by my brother - back when the micra had NO power mods).

Extremely happy with the tune, I recommend IS Motor Racing for anyone in Sydney looking to do more work to their cars, but as for me the search for power will come to a temporary halt for the moment as chasing more ponies is going to cost mega-bucks, which I'm not prepared to dump in.

Would I recommend going this way?? Well if you are chasing HP, seriously do it the turbo route... But I am an N/A maniac and love the sound.

To give you a rough indication of what cost is involved in chasing NA power...

Complete exhaust - $1000

Intake set up - $100

GA15 throttle body - $175

GA15 injectors - $150

Tomei cams - $600

Apexi AFC Neo (piggyback ecu) - $320

total = $2345

not including labour... all up my labour was around $400

So seriously give it some thought before you go down there!

cheers!

Daniel
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