Fuel injecting K10? Is this possible?
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You would need to arrange a high pressure fuel pump for the injectors as well...
I wonder what the Micra ST uses? Perhaps another model in the Nissan range could donate its fuel pump?
I wonder what the Micra ST uses? Perhaps another model in the Nissan range could donate its fuel pump?
Actually, if you put the pump in the fuel line, you can use almost any inline-fuelpump if they produce enough pressure and fuel flow to your system. Electrical fuel pumps from carburated cars won't work because they don't produce enough pressure.crogthomas said:
In my Micra, I have Cherry turbo's fuel pump fitted in the fuel tank, but I had to modifye it to get it fitted and I also had to make a new hole to the tank, so that wasn't the best option...
Mark
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micra Exhaust Manifolds are not cheap. they are not off the shelf like Nova's etc so custom is the only way.
I paid a total of £400 for my 4-2-1 manifold and rest of the exhaust system. quite a good price for what i got, the whole thing is stainless steel and has lifetime guarentee, was made and fitted to the car.
I cannot fault the exhaust, it is very quiet when driven normally but then roars when you floor it.
I paid a total of £400 for my 4-2-1 manifold and rest of the exhaust system. quite a good price for what i got, the whole thing is stainless steel and has lifetime guarentee, was made and fitted to the car.
I cannot fault the exhaust, it is very quiet when driven normally but then roars when you floor it.
paul_k10_Lx
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would cbr carbs no #### up the engine by not suppling enough fuel and there for over leaning the engine CBR 600 on a 1000/1200 cc engine?
Yeah, BUT the CBR 600 revs twice as high as a K10. Im going to clean up and sell mine soon. THEY DO NEED jetting, BUT they have been already modified and fit straight onto a MA series engine.
See attachment. I will want around £80 for these. But you will have to do the homework yourself on the Jetting. If you dont and you melt your engine, or if there are any problems that cannot be easily resolved, as I never followed this all the way to the end, there is no refund!!
See attachment. I will want around £80 for these. But you will have to do the homework yourself on the Jetting. If you dont and you melt your engine, or if there are any problems that cannot be easily resolved, as I never followed this all the way to the end, there is no refund!!
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paul_k10_Lx
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is this injection thing possible with the 1.2 ecc version on the ma series mat has mentioned it to me but would appreciate it if some one could elabourate. ED maybe as u are the micra god
Pietro actually got in first with this. Ill sort them out soon, and then whoever commits first after that point can have them.
As for K10 injection, you could as a single point injector from say a uno1.1ie on to the K10 WITH the carb still there and map for a turbo, however to truly get a full injection system, you want an inlet manifold of a figaro, and an eccs system from a 1.0 K11 or something. (unless you can also get loom and ecu from a figaro.)
Ed
As for K10 injection, you could as a single point injector from say a uno1.1ie on to the K10 WITH the carb still there and map for a turbo, however to truly get a full injection system, you want an inlet manifold of a figaro, and an eccs system from a 1.0 K11 or something. (unless you can also get loom and ecu from a figaro.)
Ed
I'm afraid that I cannot offer any help with the bike carbs, as I never looked into getting jets etc. Ill say honestly that youll need to find somone who can help. I offer the carbs for sale on the basis, that there may be a flaw or reason that they may never work as well as hoped. Since the project was abandoned when I got the ST, there is no guarantees etc..
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ricardo_swarez
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this may sound stupid, but what is jetting? i've heard of it, i've seen it, but i honestly don't no what it is, tell me EVERYTHING there is to no about it please
paul_k10_Lx
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increasing the size of the fuel jet in the carb i believe. carbs have like a single injector so jetting would be replacing that for a higher cappacity one.
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ricardo_swarez
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is that what it is? thought it was something completly different to that
paul_k10_Lx
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think thats wot it is. im sure ed will correct me if im wrong
That in the most basic form is exactly what it is. However carbs have evolved and you get fuel enrichment jets, idle jets accelerator jets etc.. The main running jet will be the one what needs sorting. It may be possible to simply drill one out a fraction of a mm at a time until its the right size.
Mark
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cg13 is not a good choice imo, there not much more powerful compared to a ma12,
I'd go for a swift gti engine seeing as a cg13 would require the same amount of work, they rev to 8000rpm standard and produce 101bhp in standard form. still 1.3 16v and way more powerful than a cg13.
my friend has a swift gti and can pull 130mph easy with 5 people in the car and its completely standard. kill off any k11 easy
I'd go for a swift gti engine seeing as a cg13 would require the same amount of work, they rev to 8000rpm standard and produce 101bhp in standard form. still 1.3 16v and way more powerful than a cg13.
my friend has a swift gti and can pull 130mph easy with 5 people in the car and its completely standard. kill off any k11 easy
mark you are totally under estimating the CG13de. With a similar exhuast set up, high lift cams (which the GTi does have) and a remap, you could rev to 8000rpm and make more power. Also i bet its easier and cheaper to get a hold of a CG13de rather then a swift GTi engine.
But if you wanted, why not go with an RX7 engine? Thats also 1.3 and would blow away any GTi.
It does require work to get a CG13 to where you want it, but no one said any mass produced micra was fast standard, thats not why people buy them
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But if you wanted, why not go with an RX7 engine? Thats also 1.3 and would blow away any GTi.
It does require work to get a CG13 to where you want it, but no one said any mass produced micra was fast standard, thats not why people buy them
.micra_pete
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mark, comparing the ma12 to the cg13 is a very odd thing to do, 1.2 8v, vs 1.3 16v?.
also your friends engine can't be standard
also your friends engine can't be standard
Mark
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My friends swift is completely standard, not even lowered or has alloys. no induction kit or anything,
but yeah a cg13 with a lot of work possibly could be 100bhp but the swift has it all standard. maybe i am under-estimateing the cg13 but I would rather use a swift gti engine as it is 100 bhp as standard where as a cg13 requires a lot of work to get up to 100bhp and cant really go far past 100 without serious modifications
but yeah a cg13 with a lot of work possibly could be 100bhp but the swift has it all standard. maybe i am under-estimateing the cg13 but I would rather use a swift gti engine as it is 100 bhp as standard where as a cg13 requires a lot of work to get up to 100bhp and cant really go far past 100 without serious modifications
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ohc_turbo
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from what ive read on here go either for a ga16de or a sr20de, it would be a much hassle fitting a cg13de as to a sr20de
apparently a ga16 is easier as it uses the same diameter driveshafts as the ma so yo dont have to change the hubs, ill have to check this though
apparently a ga16 is easier as it uses the same diameter driveshafts as the ma so yo dont have to change the hubs, ill have to check this though
micra_pete
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a standard swift does not have an 8000rpm rev limit, nor will it do 130mph, i have worked on one recently, and i know this for sure, it certainly wouldn't do that speed with 5 in, its will only a 100bhp 1.3
also i cg will hit 100bhp with very little work imo, and what can a swift get upto without serious modification?
pretty similiar cars / engines if you ask me
also i cg will hit 100bhp with very little work imo, and what can a swift get upto without serious modification?
pretty similiar cars / engines if you ask me
Mark
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Swift GTI's do have a 8000rpm rev limiter, I go in my friends quite often and I have seen it hit 130mph with more to go.
obviously you possibly make a cg13 kick out the same amount of power but what i am saying is the swift gti has 100bhp as standard and the sive and amount of valves might be the same i dont they share any other simularitys
obviously you possibly make a cg13 kick out the same amount of power but what i am saying is the swift gti has 100bhp as standard and the sive and amount of valves might be the same i dont they share any other simularitys
micra_pete
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mark, your right, i asked around some swift gti's will rev that high, some don't.
they are very similiar cars though, i'd consider having one, ot now though.
in regard to fuel injecting a k10, i dont see why not, but for the costs involved it doesn't seem worthwhile
they are very similiar cars though, i'd consider having one, ot now though.
in regard to fuel injecting a k10, i dont see why not, but for the costs involved it doesn't seem worthwhile
bobsp16
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in autograss racing the class 4 k11's some run R1 bike carbs and others throttle bodies but they are pushing out there 1130cc cg10s to around 140bhp,but the only part left inside the engine that you could call nissans is only the crank.and i would say to get the cc up to a longer stroke thats heaverly ground to an offset
bobsp16
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Speedle said:
i dont no but at that power who care's
i no a company call b&j race engines they do the 1.4 ohc vauxhall (nova engine) in class 5 they have got them up to 150/165bhp 1420cc but it will set you back around £8k
and the for the peugeot/citroen 1360cc tu engine from swift tune around 160/170bhp and they are all n/a still
bobsp16
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Speedle said:
if you got the money they will do anything,
iam looking into a high spec ma10 for next year
class 4 limits you to a max cc of 1130 8/16 valva n/a engine i think in this class the ma10 engine can be tuned more then the cg10,
i will be looking at putting the crank from the ma10 in the ma12 block to get the cc down and then skimming off about 8mm of the block and use flat top ma12 pistons and forged rods,alot of head work like porting big valves wild cam and run on bike carbs and hopefully looking at around say 130+bhp to be competive
bobsp16
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Speedle said:
i wouldn't think you would have to spend that much to get 100bhp out of an ma10,standard bottom end some head work a cam and carbs,but over that then the money goes up.
some numbers to try
R.E.S
dave walker 01636 671277
b&j race engines 0161 7488663
ill find out the number for swift tune
