how to get power...

Stani1029

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hi all, need some genius ideas of getting lights into a garage that has no electricity. ive thought of solar panels? what would i need to set this up, either that or keep a charged battery and plug it in everytime but im lazy so i dont want to have to do this lol i want to hear lots of good ideas now!!

cheers stani
 
solar is,nt ideal stani, because you need the lighting mainly in the winter :doh:
how about a little genny ?
 
get a generator, or a car battery and take it home 2 charge

you think the car battery is the best idea then?? thats what i first thought of. anybody know how long a fully charged battery would last if i had 2 of the long lights like the ones you get in kitchens hooked up to it
 
you think the car battery is the best idea then?? thats what i first thought of. anybody know how long a fully charged battery would last if i had 2 of the long lights like the ones you get in kitchens hooked up to it

inverters are pretty expensive/inefficient stani, 12v led lights would be better imo (45AH car battery - 10 of those - 20hrs) :)
 
or how about car headlights?? they are pretty damn bright. hook them to a battery and just point them up at the roof :p but im sure the battery wont last that long lol
 
dont use a car battery as they dont like being run flat then charged i.e. cycled they need to be constantly on charge,

go down the camping place and get a caravan leisure (sp) battery, higher capacity than a car battery, they are a cyclic battery so will withstand being run flat and then charged up again.

for the actual lights you want some 12v florescent lamps, my dad used to have some in his van, were quite bright and only a couple of hudred milliamps so will last ages on a good leisure battery
 
Fruit Power

Tools and Materials

* 3 lemons (limes will do)
* 3 shiny copper coins—we used US pennies
* 3 zinc plated screws
* 4 wires, preferably with alligator clips on the ends
* small knife
* small paper sticky labels
* light emitting diode (LED) with a low voltage rating—we used part 276-330 from Radio Shack
* plastic 35mm film canister or similar small container—opaque, preferably black and not one made of clear plastic
* nail or small awl

materials


The zinc-plated screws can be found at most hardware stores. They are also called "galvanized" screws. The zinc plating, which is there to prevent rusting of the steel screw, gives them a shiny look. The wires with clips can be found at hardware stores or at electronics suppliers.
What To Do

First, roll all of the lemons, one at a time. Press down with your hand and roll until you feel the lemon become sort of "squishy." The purpose of this is to release the juice inside the lemon. This step is very important; it helps you get the maximum response from your lemons.

Push and then twist a zinc-plated screw into one of the lemons about 1/3 of the way from one end. With the knife, carefully cut a 1 cm (3/4 in) slit into the lemon about 1/3 of the way from the other end.

CAUTION: It might be better for an adult to handle the knife. In all cases, please work with the knife SLOWLY and CAREFULLY.

Insert a copper coin into the slit so that about half of the coin is inside the lemon.

Note: Make sure you use a shiny new coin for this. If it is old and dull, polish it with steel wool.

Believe it or not, you can now get electricity from the lemon!! It behaves like an electric cell, with the coin as the positive (+) terminal and the screw as the negative (-) terminal. Unfortunately, it is a very weak cell. But if you have a couple more, you can join them to make a lemon battery.
Add coins and screws to the other two lemons the same way you did with the first. Then, with the wires and clips, join the three lemon cells together, so that the screw of the first lemon is connected to the coin of the second lemon, and so on. Add wires and clips to the first coin and the last screw also.

Finally, label the clip from the first coin with a "+" and the clip from the last screw with a "- ". Like a real battery, your lemon battery has a positive (+) terminal and a negative (-) terminal.

When connected like this in what is called a series connection, the lemons work together to create about the same voltage, or electrical force, as a couple of small flashlight batteries, somewhere between 2.5 and 3 volts. But this lemon battery does not create enough electrical current to light a flashlight bulb.

How can we tell if we really have created a battery? One way is to connect it to an electronic device that needs no more than about 2.5 to 3 volts but that does not require much electrical current. One such device called a light emitting diode, or LED for short. A low voltage and small current can cause an LED to light up.

The specifications on our LED package are: 5mm Red LED, 1.8 volt, 20mA. This means the diameter of the LED is 5 mm, and that it requires 1.8 volts and 20 milliamps of current to light up. Actually, the LED will light up dimly with less than 20 milliamps. Our lemon battery has enough volts but not nearly enough milliamps. So we will have to find a way to see its dim light. We tried enclosing it in a film canister to shield it from outside light.

With the nail, CAREFULLY punch two holes in the sides of the film canister, about halfway down. You might want to get an adult to do this for you.

Next, mark one hole with a "+" label and the other with a "-" label.

Procedures

Bend the wires of the LED into smooth outward curves. Then observe the LED closely. It is mostly round. However, if you tilt it in a certain way, you will be able to see a flat surface near one of the wires. The wire nearest this flat surface is the negative terminal. In the photograph, the wire on the left is the negative terminal of the LED. Can you see the small flat surface by the leftmost wire?

Procedures

Line up the negative terminal wire of the LED with the "-" labeled hole in the film canister. Insert the LED into the canister. Thread the negative terminal wire of the LED through the "-" labeled hole, and the other (positive terminal) wire through the "+" labeled hole.

Procedures

Pull the wires through the holes and secure them in place with the labels. Add labels to the top of the canister as well. Make sure that the LED is facing up.

Let’s get everything prepared for the big moment. Line up the "+" side of the LED canister with the "+" clip of your lemon battery. Bring the "-" clip of your lemon battery close to the "-" side of the canister.

Procedures

ProceduresNow we are ready! Connect the positive terminal of the LED to the positive terminal of your lemon battery. Connect the negative terminal of the LED to the negative terminal of your battery. The LED lights up!!

The LED is very dim, due to the small electrical current from your battery. The dark canister helps you to see this dim light. The end of the LED acts like a magnifying glass. When you look directly into the end of the LED, you can see the light easily.

This proves that you really have made a lemon battery that works!! Congratulations!!
;)
 
grab a couple of mirrors to direct a nearby streetlamp into the garage?

or grab afew flares from a camping shop?
 
I would go for the idea involving the battery. Get a deep cycle 12v 'Traction' battery, these can withstand being discharged a number of times as they have thicker much heavier duty plates.

A decent battery charger for home, preferably multi stage will take take better care of it and also charge it faster than a standard charger.
 
Your best just buying a decent camping light.

We had one in the old garage we rented which was exactly the same situation.

They are made for camping so hold tonnes of charge and are really bright, and because they're nice and small you can just take it home with you, also a lot of them can be charged from a car.

Plus you can easily move it under the car/to the area you are working on to get better light.

Although not much use if there is 2 of you working on it at once.

We used to have a racing sidecar in there :D

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yeah the garage isnt near enough to get power from my house or en extension lead lol the battery is the main idea but i like the camplight idea CHIPEDWOOD. send me a link please of a similiar one to the one you suggest ;)
 
i think as a source of light, LEDs are the best, they are the lowest consumption to light output that you are going to get.

you could then have a few solar pannels on the roof, and then a deep cycle camping battery in the garage to run the LEDs,

the battery charges during the day, and runs the LEDs at night. with enough solar panels in parallel you should be able to charge the batteries before the next night.

thats what i would do anyway,
 
best thing to do is set up a set of 12v lights and connect it to your super s and leave that running outside your garage then you have a constant supply just lock your car and connect jumpers from the battery to your lighting rig. also jimbling thats highly illegal stealing electricity from the street lights.
 
best thing to do is set up a set of 12v lights and connect it to your super s and leave that running outside your garage then you have a constant supply just lock your car and connect jumpers from the battery to your lighting rig. also jimbling thats highly illegal stealing electricity from the street lights.

he wants a silent way of doing it tho
 
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