boyracergt
Ex. Club Member
considering converting to k11 brakes is the gain worth the effort and are they much bigger? cheers
k11 brake conversion
- Thread starter boyracergt
- Start date
superls
K10 Tuner
to put ANY different brakes on a k10 you need k11 hubs and track rod ends at a minimum, ideally you need k11 wishbones too but there not essential. i have almera 1.4 brakes on mine, quite a bit larger diameter disk, bigger friction area on pad, vented too, really good improvement, and ive not managed to get them to fade yet.
Baz
Ex. Club Member
bigger friction area doesnt improve friction
So your saying fitting a bigger caliper and pad on the original size discs would not improve braking?I would tend to 100% disagree
superls
K10 Tuner
bigger friction area doesnt improve friction
how do you get at that conclusion?
OP
OP
boyracergt
Ex. Club Member
whats the difference between the k10 and k11 wishbones ? also are the k11 brakes worth swapping to or would almera brakes be better?
the braking will improve for 2 reasons
1.bigger discs mean bigger circle,thus much more torque produced.
2.bigger discs mean more mass,thus they get hot much more difficult
you have a point kostas
the amount of pressure applied on the brakes depends from the pressure applied on the break pedal from the driver,the servo system that amplifies it,and the caliper size
im sure new discs and pads (as long as they are bedded in properly!) including the discs should have a whole load of extra braking power
if they are generally better ofcourse they will improve breaking!
superls
K10 Tuner
the bottom balljoint on the k11 is different to the k10 (dependant on year) as the k11 hubs i have (facelift ones) have a bigger tamered hole in then the k10 hubs i took off, therefore i had to put a washer under the nut when butting the ball joint back on as to pull it up a bit. K11 wishbones is somethign i will be fitting soonish.
as frank said the rubber rear mount is different, but im lead to believe that the k10 rubber can be fitted to the k11 wishbone enabling you to use the k10 bracket/clamp.
@kostas007, not afraid to hold my hands up when my opinion is proved wrong, but i still cant get my head around the fact that contact area is indapendant of friction, just somthing ive alwasy assumed, more contact with something the more friction.
as frank said the rubber rear mount is different, but im lead to believe that the k10 rubber can be fitted to the k11 wishbone enabling you to use the k10 bracket/clamp.
@kostas007, not afraid to hold my hands up when my opinion is proved wrong, but i still cant get my head around the fact that contact area is indapendant of friction, just somthing ive alwasy assumed, more contact with something the more friction.
Actually a little side note on the k11 wishbones, i found these helped the handling quite a bit being a bigger stiffer bush. K11 brakes is quite a big improvement for a little car and the use of k11 hubs open the further possibilites of fitting pulsar calipers if power ever did increase that much. Most likely not.
little-ls
Ex. Club Member
Can someone do a sticky of all the interchangeable brake calipers that bolt on to a k11 hub?
so far there's the k11 themselves (would the 1.3sr or supers brakes be better than the standard 1 litre ones?), the pulsar calipers (Nissan Sunny too then?) and the Almera ones.
so far there's the k11 themselves (would the 1.3sr or supers brakes be better than the standard 1 litre ones?), the pulsar calipers (Nissan Sunny too then?) and the Almera ones.
superls
K10 Tuner
As far as i know any nissan sunny calpiers would fit, any almera up to the last n15 model (possibly newer??) primera calipers will fit but the disks wont as the pcd is different iirc.
i doubt sr brakes are much different to 1 liter ones but im a newby k11 man so not sure. i know my sr brakes look similar to my bro's 1 litre at a quick glance.
but then you get down to what wheels your going to be fitting, if you want to retain your 13's (like me) early almera 1.4 brakes were the biggest i could go, larger diameter, vented, bigger pads. but if you have 15's on any should fit, some 14's are limited, some will accept gtir brakes some wont, i think it depends on the shape at the back of the wheel
i doubt sr brakes are much different to 1 liter ones but im a newby k11 man so not sure. i know my sr brakes look similar to my bro's 1 litre at a quick glance.
but then you get down to what wheels your going to be fitting, if you want to retain your 13's (like me) early almera 1.4 brakes were the biggest i could go, larger diameter, vented, bigger pads. but if you have 15's on any should fit, some 14's are limited, some will accept gtir brakes some wont, i think it depends on the shape at the back of the wheel
