Ive just recently had a problem on my k11, i went to do some shopping, got back in the car, started it and after about 3 seconds it turns off with the engine management light flashing. ive tried to start it again but i get the same as stated above. ive checked all the fuses, all are fine, disconnected the battery, its had a recent service, oil fuel filter etc, any ideas?
Car starts then turns off
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Alienfish360
Awesome Dawson
that's NATS stopping the engine.
It will have started because of fuel left over, as NATS cuts the fuel not the spark, but once that fuel is gone it will cut out. If you keep trying, eventually it won't start at all.
You're going to need to take it to Nissan to fix it.
It will have started because of fuel left over, as NATS cuts the fuel not the spark, but once that fuel is gone it will cut out. If you keep trying, eventually it won't start at all.
You're going to need to take it to Nissan to fix it.
chipedwood
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Haynes manual says:
Loose or faulty electrical connections in the ignition circuit. (could be the fuses in the engine bay getting water in and corroding. Pull them out and check them.)
Vacuum Leak at the throttle body or inlet manifold.
Fuel Injector system fault.
Hard to tell really as it can be more things than that but they would be a good start to check.
Also it could be NATS, that's going to be a pain in the ass if so, but mine was doing the same and wasn't nats
Loose or faulty electrical connections in the ignition circuit. (could be the fuses in the engine bay getting water in and corroding. Pull them out and check them.)
Vacuum Leak at the throttle body or inlet manifold.
Fuel Injector system fault.
Hard to tell really as it can be more things than that but they would be a good start to check.
Also it could be NATS, that's going to be a pain in the ass if so, but mine was doing the same and wasn't nats
Alienfish360
Awesome Dawson
100% certain it's NATS
chipedwood
Ex. Club Member
That's what everyone said to me, then I realized that a Fuse has corroded away at the fuseholder and was just giving the exact symptoms of NATS fault.
chipedwood
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What Year Micra you have btw? Only the prefacelifts suffer from the problem I am thinking of.
chipedwood
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Nissan Anti Theft System iirc
Yeah Imoblilizer
in that case check the fuses in the engine bay in the little black fuse boxes, it's a red one if you had the same problem as me.
take them all out and give them a bit of a clean with some sandpaper and see if any are broken.
Mine was in peices when I took it out but looked fine from outside.
Yeah Imoblilizer
in that case check the fuses in the engine bay in the little black fuse boxes, it's a red one if you had the same problem as me.
take them all out and give them a bit of a clean with some sandpaper and see if any are broken.
Mine was in peices when I took it out but looked fine from outside.
Alienfish360
Awesome Dawson
if you have NATS, it will be that, Nissan will charge quite a bit to do it, expect £100 to £250 and you'll need to tow the car there.
chipedwood
Ex. Club Member
Nah that's all it can be, what Haynes said (but the vaccume sounds unlikely)
and NATS, which you will have to go to a nissan dealer for, as it is there system nobody else can access it. And it's very secure because it is a security system...
and NATS, which you will have to go to a nissan dealer for, as it is there system nobody else can access it. And it's very secure because it is a security system...
frank
Club Member
if you drop some fuel down the t/b or soak the airfilter and it runs for about 6-8 secs, then its a fuel supply problem (nats, fuelpump, injector fuse etc)
if you can hear the pump kick in for a few secs, then it may be the injector fuse
if not, it may be nats (or pump, relay, ecu etc)
chipedwood
Ex. Club Member
Get a quote for it first, there may be ways around it I haven't heard of also, I think you can change the NATS from another micra if you take the whole thing. So don't lose hope
Alienfish360
Awesome Dawson
Can you afford to replace the car? if the car is in otherwise good condition, and low miles then £200 for Nissan to sort NATS is cheaper than scrapping and buying again.
you can reset the ecu by taking the battery out over night. check the coil and the key, the little red chip in the key is what makes it all work.
what you could try if you have reached all ends, is hotwire the fuel pump relay, just wire it into the live feed from the ignition and that should override it but i have never tried it myself
what you could try if you have reached all ends, is hotwire the fuel pump relay, just wire it into the live feed from the ignition and that should override it but i have never tried it myself
if you could some how wire it to a signal from the ECU that is also only active when the engine is running then that would be better
Alienfish360
Awesome Dawson
If you get an ECU without NATS, you will need to modify the loom as the pinouts between NATS and NON-NATS are different.
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