Fitting cams, hard?
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ricardo_swarez
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why not just get a 1.3 engine and drop that in? Much better gains, and then if you want to change the cams later, you can get some fast road cams.
Dr Zoidberg
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if you have your haynes manual and are quite confident about doing it yourself then go for it. if you've not done mechanical things before may be best to start somewhere other than cams in opinion.
like people have said craig is the man to ask.
like people have said craig is the man to ask.
goldstar0011
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If you are after performance gains there's is no point skimping and hoping for best, the 1L gearbox won't take as much power as the 1.3 and they'll come a point when you'll realise if you put the same effort into a 1.3 you'd have an even faster car.
Changing an engine is pretty easy tbh, all it takes is an engine crane, few mates, loadsa labels and time.
Personally all 1L drivers wanting more performance should just do a 1.3
Changing an engine is pretty easy tbh, all it takes is an engine crane, few mates, loadsa labels and time.
Personally all 1L drivers wanting more performance should just do a 1.3
Alienfish360
Awesome Dawson
The comment when people ask how can they get more performance, and people answer put a 1.3 in, sometimes annoys me a little.
I'm driving a 1ltr but want more performance. But I want to tune the 1. I don't want to do the 1.3
I want to see what I can do with the 1ltr as my own little challenge
If I end up blowing something up, then I'd change it
I'm driving a 1ltr but want more performance. But I want to tune the 1. I don't want to do the 1.3
I want to see what I can do with the 1ltr as my own little challenge If I end up blowing something up, then I'd change it
yeah everyone to their own really, its argueable putting a 1.3 in isnt pointless when theres 1.4s which are also a straight fit or put proper work in and do what mr. raceworx done lol. for a tenner, i dont see why people are telling me that its a bad idea, 5-6hp for 10 quid is not bad at all. In 2 or 3 years time when im in full time employment i will then put a couple or more hundred in to a new 1.4 engine or something, with performance cams and the rest of it, im just after a few cheap hp "for now".
- at the moment i also have no place of my own to put an engine in as doing it in middle of the street may cause a few local issues, also why theres NO option other then to have somebody do it for me...
i do appreciate your comments and advice but it isnt always as easy as "drop a bigger engine in"
- at the moment i also have no place of my own to put an engine in as doing it in middle of the street may cause a few local issues, also why theres NO option other then to have somebody do it for me...
i do appreciate your comments and advice but it isnt always as easy as "drop a bigger engine in"
goldstar0011
Ex. Club Member
But you'll be doing it yourself, in the end it's cheaper to pay someone to drop a 1.3 in than to have them dismantle and change standard 1L parts for standard 1.3 parts
goldstar0011
Ex. Club Member
See what you mean about the middle of street though, don't do a 1.4 though, am sure it's a different engine (Renault hybrid or something) so parts are unique to it
Alienfish360
Awesome Dawson
may be being controversial here. but if you want serious tuning and performance advice, you need to goto somewhere that specialises in it. Yeah there are lots of nice micra's here, but bar Ed's ST, Raceworx's 2L and JA Kelly's 1.6.
There's no 'performance' micras on the site. There all 1 or 1.3 standard internal and may have an exhaust. There's hardly any performance micra's. Goto a local tuning garage and see what they recommend. Or goto a jap tuning forum and ask there.
There's no 'performance' micras on the site. There all 1 or 1.3 standard internal and may have an exhaust. There's hardly any performance micra's. Goto a local tuning garage and see what they recommend. Or goto a jap tuning forum and ask there.
my cg10de is the later 2000 one, i think its only a straight swap for the 1.4 NOT 1.3 neway, and 1.4 engines are rare as fook. im hoping to do the cams myself (so that'd b free)..
im not a hardcore tuner, jus some guy with a 1.0l who wants a few cheap hp, i aint even gna bother paying for a manifold until in a few years and i hve got a bigger engine to play with
im not a hardcore tuner, jus some guy with a 1.0l who wants a few cheap hp, i aint even gna bother paying for a manifold until in a few years and i hve got a bigger engine to play with
goldstar0011
Ex. Club Member
You could consider performance parts that can be transfered to a 1.3 in the future.
But Alienfish is right, there aren't loads of hardcore tuners, i know chie was till the car died, micrapete and Ed goes as far as ECU mapping and there used to be 2 members (Jo and John) who were as hardcore as getting 200BHP from a 1.3.
Good point for doing the 1L is that if something goes wrong standard 1L and 1.3 parts are easy enough to get
But Alienfish is right, there aren't loads of hardcore tuners, i know chie was till the car died, micrapete and Ed goes as far as ECU mapping and there used to be 2 members (Jo and John) who were as hardcore as getting 200BHP from a 1.3.
Good point for doing the 1L is that if something goes wrong standard 1L and 1.3 parts are easy enough to get
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ricardo_swarez
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Aleinfish you say go to a tuning place and ask, kristian did, and they said just put a bigger engine in, we suggest a bigger engine because its a stronger base the start with, and if your on a budget it is cheaper to get larger gains from a larger engine. This guy obviously has little mechanical experience (no offence to him, related the ed I have little hands on mechanical experience) but as someone said, dont start with cams as your first mod, its not as easy as people are making out.
Changing an engine is relativly easy, I remember me, dusk and kristian starting to change a k10 engine at around 8pm... having never changed an engine before we were the in the rain and the dark with nothing but these lights...
..changing an engine and ####ing about, was great, get some mates round, some sticky labels are a must..as gary said, start early and on a warm day...unlike us, then get stuck in, you'l learn alot about the engine, get 20bhp overnight and have a nice new platform to work on. If your low on cash but want to get bigger gains, then save up get the bigger engine, because working on a smaller engine makes it harder and more expensive the get the bigger gains.
...If all else fails give me, goldstain, kristian and dusk your address, we'l come down, change the engine, probably metaly scare you for life, gary would chip your x-box, me and dusk would eat all your food and kristian will force you to buy and xbox....but your car will be faster
..if hughes 16v came he'd tell you were all the local prostitutes are aswel...
Changing an engine is relativly easy, I remember me, dusk and kristian starting to change a k10 engine at around 8pm... having never changed an engine before we were the in the rain and the dark with nothing but these lights...
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..changing an engine and ####ing about, was great, get some mates round, some sticky labels are a must..as gary said, start early and on a warm day...unlike us, then get stuck in, you'l learn alot about the engine, get 20bhp overnight and have a nice new platform to work on. If your low on cash but want to get bigger gains, then save up get the bigger engine, because working on a smaller engine makes it harder and more expensive the get the bigger gains.
...If all else fails give me, goldstain, kristian and dusk your address, we'l come down, change the engine, probably metaly scare you for life, gary would chip your x-box, me and dusk would eat all your food and kristian will force you to buy and xbox....but your car will be faster
..if hughes 16v came he'd tell you were all the local prostitutes are aswel...
lol nice post ricardo, will bear that in mind ... :/
i cant really use a CG13DE in my car, as trust me its an awful lot of fudging about, as i have coilpack ignition, and CGA3DEs are like finding a fart in a tornado, especially at the right price. I thought if this(cams) was easy for a tenner, wud b good lil' project - for now.
i cant really use a CG13DE in my car, as trust me its an awful lot of fudging about, as i have coilpack ignition, and CGA3DEs are like finding a fart in a tornado, especially at the right price. I thought if this(cams) was easy for a tenner, wud b good lil' project - for now.
goldstar0011
Ex. Club Member
Cracking post ricky!
Solid point there for the basis and it's true about the xboxes, food and ermm....ladies of the night!
If you are considering an engine upgrade might be worth seeing if simpy changing them ECU and loom too would work
Solid point there for the basis and it's true about the xboxes, food and ermm....ladies of the night!
If you are considering an engine upgrade might be worth seeing if simpy changing them ECU and loom too would work
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lewis
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ricardo_swarez said:..changing an engine and ####ing about, was great, get some mates round, some sticky labels are a must..as gary said, start early and on a warm day...unlike us, then get stuck in, you'l learn alot about the engine, get 20bhp overnight and have a nice new platform to work on. If your low on cash but want to get bigger gains, then save up get the bigger engine, because working on a smaller engine makes it harder and more expensive the get the bigger gains.
...If all else fails give me, goldstain, kristian and dusk your address, we'l come down, change the engine, probably metaly scare you for life, gary would chip your x-box, me and dusk would eat all your food and kristian will force you to buy and xbox....but your car will be faster
..if hughes 16v came he'd tell you were all the local prostitutes are aswel...
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You might have totruble putting the distributor-type ignition cams in as I think yours may have a sensor located on the end of one of the camshafts, it is dead easy to swap as all you have to do is take the cam cover off and undo some bolts sequentially. Make sure that you have a haynes and a torque wrnch hat goes down to 8Nm, ideally lower for accuracy as the bearings need to be done at 10.
People who say that the 1l box can't handle the power of a 1.3 are IMO wrong, if you treat it right, then they are good for 80+, but I guess every box is different.
Your best bet is to whip the cam cover off and if possible take a picture so that people could check that it is the same, otherwise you may end up with a set of cams that you can't use.
People who say that the 1l box can't handle the power of a 1.3 are IMO wrong, if you treat it right, then they are good for 80+, but I guess every box is different.
Your best bet is to whip the cam cover off and if possible take a picture so that people could check that it is the same, otherwise you may end up with a set of cams that you can't use.
