o they are not yet lowered. i can still have one or 2 passengers at the back. but with limited weight only... want to lower it a bit. since i cant afford to buy lowering springs yet... i will buy 2nd hand stock spings and cut them.. so i can swith back to my original ones if they have scrubbing problems... just filled nitrogen in my tires. they feel a lot better on rough roads, and they are now more quiet....