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just changed oil and filter, it needed doing, but has made no difference. It may well be the bottom chain, but its beyond my capabilities and equipment. So she runs till she dies, I've spent as much as she cost me in the first place trying to fix the noise, a cheap sub woofer would have masked...

only replaced top chain and tensioner, it was streched so far it was ready to jump. Bottom chain looked too dficult for a monkey like me, but did not have the same slack as the top. Thanks for the replies so far, going to change oil and filter this weekend along with some wynns engine flush...

any ideas guys, this is driving me mad. Worried about the engine flush incase it knackers some seals but got to try something

Got 2 questions guys, Engine rattle. Changed cam chain and tensioner and noise has reduced its less "slappy" and "clattery" now just loud "tappety" but the strange thing is this, on some starts the noise dissapears totally, and remains quiet while ever the engine is running, trouble is a restart...