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<blockquote data-quote="pollyp" data-source="post: 797970" data-attributes="member: 4527"><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">Teesside Autodrome - Evening Trackday 25-04-2022</span></strong></p><p></p><p>Arrived early at 4pm to secure a spot in the pit lane with my m8 Dave in his blue civic</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]77750[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>swapped over to the 595RSR semislick track wheels. wasn't sure where to start with these new BC BR coilovers, so I began at their hardest setting 30/30 clicks.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]77746[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><strong>Car setup / changes</strong></p><p>My last trackday was in 2020 with Jamie (LetsTorqueCars). since then, kassandra has been fitted with:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">BC BR coilovers with softer 4/3kg springs,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Cold air ducting,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fresh GTIR oem front brakes</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Rigid bucket seat frame</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">New seat belts</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">New PAS pump</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Fresh CG13 gearbox, Open-diff</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2.5deg front camber</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">0deg toe</li> </ul><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">#16.56 warm up lap</span></strong></p><p>30/30 damper</p><p>Federal 595RSR</p><p>2.4/2.4bar start / 2.5/2.5bar end</p><p>60/40 brake bias</p><p>dry cool track</p><p>100% fuel</p><p>driver only</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]2h17euRx39E[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>I noticed the track was quite bumpy with lots more patchy tarmac repairs. The tyres are also barely warmed up after those gentle 3 laps, also found my rear left tyre was almost flat so I pumped that back up <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite19" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">#17:16 run 1</span></strong></p><p>30/30 damper</p><p>Federal 595RSR</p><p>2.5/2.5bar start / 2.95/2.6bar end</p><p>60/40 bias</p><p>dry cool track</p><p>100% fuel</p><p>only driver</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]lGR9OJpzZMk[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>@00.24 cold tyres oversteer</p><p>@02.56 180 bend oversteer</p><p>@03.29 corkscrew bend oversteer</p><p></p><p><strong>Lap Times: (gears through 1st chicane, straights, 180 bend)</strong></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">60s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) let car pass</span></p><p>60s (2nd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>59s (2nd, 4th, 3rd)</p><p>58s (3rd, 3rd, 2nd)</p><p>59s (2nd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p></p><p>The 8yr old rear tyres are really showing their hard age being really slippery when cold compared to the 6yr old fronts.</p><p>They take at least 3-4 laps to heat them up, clean the surface and reduce their oversteer.</p><p>With front & rear dampers at full hard & rear swaybar at full hard, the rear end is very light & sensitive to lift off oversteer.</p><p>Also noticed the 3yr old wideband sensor was showing E8 error during cooldown, heating element might be struggling with the intense temp difference & might need replacing someday?</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">#17:53 run 2</span></strong></p><p>30/30 damper</p><p>Federal 595RSR</p><p>2.7/2.6bar start, 2.8/2.6bar end</p><p>60/40 brake bias</p><p>dry cool track</p><p>100% fuel</p><p>dave as passenger</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]nx5GRZ4FWl0[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>@01.00 chicane oversteer</p><p>@02.20 lift off oversteer</p><p>@03.24 lift off oversteer</p><p>@05.27 oversteer</p><p></p><p><strong>Lap Times: (gears through 1st chicane, straights, 180 bend)</strong></p><p>59s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>59s (3rd, 4th, 3rd)</p><p>60s (3rd, 4th, 3rd)</p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">62s (2nd, 3rd, 3rd) let car pass</span></p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">60s (3rd, 4th, 3rd) traffic</span></p><p></p><p>Brought Dave along for a ride to see if the passenger weight helps balance the car, but with all dampers at full hard it's still very sensitive to lift off oversteer. a slight amount of oversteer might've helped turn the car mid-corner so I could accelerate earlier down the straights but overall it still loses time.</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">#18.09 run 3</span></strong></p><p>15/30 damper</p><p>Federal 595RSR</p><p>2.7/2.6bar start, 2.8/2.7 end</p><p>60/40 brake bias</p><p>dry cool</p><p>90% fuel</p><p>dave as passenger</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]UZD0azfZ54E[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>@10.40 180 bend entry oversteer</p><p></p><p>Now that the tyre pressure & temp has stabilised and after softening the front end to 15 clicks & rear to 30 clicks, she's slightly more balanced through mid-corners. Rear end is more stable when driven smoothly. The fresh GTIR brakes bite really well when warmed up after 4 laps.</p><p></p><p><strong>Lap Times: (gears through 1st chicane, straights, 180 bend)</strong></p><p>60s (2nd, 4th, 3rd)</p><p>59s (3rd, 4th, 3rd)</p><p>60s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>59s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>59s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">61s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) traffic</span></p><p>60s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) add more rear bias</p><p><span style="color: rgb(184, 49, 47)">60s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) let car pass</span></p><p>58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>59s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p></p><p>Next I went for a ride in Daves civic. It's alot comfier & quieter than mine although the standard seats don't offer much support as I roll around lol. it was a few nice laps till we went past the 1st bumpy hairpin and then it suddenly lost drive ?</p><p></p><p>hazards on, we got tow'd back to pits to assess the damage</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]77747[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>turned out the driveshaft had snapped off the CV joint where the spline is, seems to be a common honda issue I heard ?</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]77748[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>he awaits the recovery truck home</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]77749[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p><strong><span style="font-size: 26px">#19.12 Run 4</span></strong></p><p>15/30 damper</p><p>Federal 595RSR</p><p>2.7/2.6bar start, 2.75/2.65 end</p><p>57/43 brake bias</p><p>dry cool</p><p>90% fuel</p><p>only driver</p><p></p><p>Whilst dave awaits his recovery, I went for a last run with the dampers now set, slightly less fuel weight and no passengers.</p><p>Tyres are now stone cold so the out-lap will be tricky on these old tyres</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]HJShmYDUddM[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>@00.19 stone cold tyres oversteer</p><p>@01.20 lock front left</p><p>@01.25 corkscrew entry oversteer</p><p>@09.20 overtake black citreon</p><p>@09.30 180 bend entry slight oversteer</p><p></p><p><strong>Lap Times: (gears through 1st chicane, straights, 180 bend)</strong></p><p>61s (2nd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>60s (3rd, 4th, 3rd)</p><p>58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>57.36 (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>57.32 (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p>58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd)</p><p></p><p>Once again the old rear tyres were very slippery when stone cold. The balance stabilises after a few laps & tyres heated back up.</p><p></p><p>Assessing & comparing my laps to the previous trackday, it felt quite good near the end.</p><p>My fastest lap of 57.32sec is approx 0.20s faster, mostly due to improved acceleration from the cold air intake ducting in the wing panel and can brake much later with the fresh front brakes.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]77912[/ATTACH]</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pollyp, post: 797970, member: 4527"] [B][SIZE=7]Teesside Autodrome - Evening Trackday 25-04-2022[/SIZE][/B] Arrived early at 4pm to secure a spot in the pit lane with my m8 Dave in his blue civic [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20220425_160208.jpg"]77750[/ATTACH] swapped over to the 595RSR semislick track wheels. wasn't sure where to start with these new BC BR coilovers, so I began at their hardest setting 30/30 clicks. [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20220425_164256.jpg"]77746[/ATTACH] [B]Car setup / changes[/B] My last trackday was in 2020 with Jamie (LetsTorqueCars). since then, kassandra has been fitted with: [LIST] [*]BC BR coilovers with softer 4/3kg springs, [*]Cold air ducting, [*]Fresh GTIR oem front brakes [*]Rigid bucket seat frame [*]New seat belts [*]New PAS pump [*]Fresh CG13 gearbox, Open-diff [*]2.5deg front camber [*]0deg toe [/LIST] [B][SIZE=7]#16.56 warm up lap[/SIZE][/B] 30/30 damper Federal 595RSR 2.4/2.4bar start / 2.5/2.5bar end 60/40 brake bias dry cool track 100% fuel driver only [MEDIA=youtube]2h17euRx39E[/MEDIA] I noticed the track was quite bumpy with lots more patchy tarmac repairs. The tyres are also barely warmed up after those gentle 3 laps, also found my rear left tyre was almost flat so I pumped that back up :p [B][SIZE=7]#17:16 run 1[/SIZE][/B] 30/30 damper Federal 595RSR 2.5/2.5bar start / 2.95/2.6bar end 60/40 bias dry cool track 100% fuel only driver [MEDIA=youtube]lGR9OJpzZMk[/MEDIA] @00.24 cold tyres oversteer @02.56 180 bend oversteer @03.29 corkscrew bend oversteer [B]Lap Times: (gears through 1st chicane, straights, 180 bend)[/B] [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]60s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) let car pass[/COLOR] 60s (2nd, 3rd, 3rd) 59s (2nd, 4th, 3rd) 58s (3rd, 3rd, 2nd) 59s (2nd, 3rd, 3rd) The 8yr old rear tyres are really showing their hard age being really slippery when cold compared to the 6yr old fronts. They take at least 3-4 laps to heat them up, clean the surface and reduce their oversteer. With front & rear dampers at full hard & rear swaybar at full hard, the rear end is very light & sensitive to lift off oversteer. Also noticed the 3yr old wideband sensor was showing E8 error during cooldown, heating element might be struggling with the intense temp difference & might need replacing someday? [B][SIZE=7]#17:53 run 2[/SIZE][/B] 30/30 damper Federal 595RSR 2.7/2.6bar start, 2.8/2.6bar end 60/40 brake bias dry cool track 100% fuel dave as passenger [MEDIA=youtube]nx5GRZ4FWl0[/MEDIA] @01.00 chicane oversteer @02.20 lift off oversteer @03.24 lift off oversteer @05.27 oversteer [B]Lap Times: (gears through 1st chicane, straights, 180 bend)[/B] 59s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 59s (3rd, 4th, 3rd) 60s (3rd, 4th, 3rd) [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]62s (2nd, 3rd, 3rd) let car pass 60s (3rd, 4th, 3rd) traffic[/COLOR] Brought Dave along for a ride to see if the passenger weight helps balance the car, but with all dampers at full hard it's still very sensitive to lift off oversteer. a slight amount of oversteer might've helped turn the car mid-corner so I could accelerate earlier down the straights but overall it still loses time. [B][SIZE=7]#18.09 run 3[/SIZE][/B] 15/30 damper Federal 595RSR 2.7/2.6bar start, 2.8/2.7 end 60/40 brake bias dry cool 90% fuel dave as passenger [MEDIA=youtube]UZD0azfZ54E[/MEDIA] @10.40 180 bend entry oversteer Now that the tyre pressure & temp has stabilised and after softening the front end to 15 clicks & rear to 30 clicks, she's slightly more balanced through mid-corners. Rear end is more stable when driven smoothly. The fresh GTIR brakes bite really well when warmed up after 4 laps. [B]Lap Times: (gears through 1st chicane, straights, 180 bend)[/B] 60s (2nd, 4th, 3rd) 59s (3rd, 4th, 3rd) 60s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 59s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 59s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]61s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) traffic[/COLOR] 60s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) add more rear bias [COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]60s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) let car pass[/COLOR] 58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 59s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) Next I went for a ride in Daves civic. It's alot comfier & quieter than mine although the standard seats don't offer much support as I roll around lol. it was a few nice laps till we went past the 1st bumpy hairpin and then it suddenly lost drive ? hazards on, we got tow'd back to pits to assess the damage [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20220425_184934.jpg"]77747[/ATTACH] turned out the driveshaft had snapped off the CV joint where the spline is, seems to be a common honda issue I heard ? [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20220425_190331.jpg"]77748[/ATTACH] he awaits the recovery truck home [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMG_20220425_200310.jpg"]77749[/ATTACH] [B][SIZE=7]#19.12 Run 4[/SIZE][/B] 15/30 damper Federal 595RSR 2.7/2.6bar start, 2.75/2.65 end 57/43 brake bias dry cool 90% fuel only driver Whilst dave awaits his recovery, I went for a last run with the dampers now set, slightly less fuel weight and no passengers. Tyres are now stone cold so the out-lap will be tricky on these old tyres [MEDIA=youtube]HJShmYDUddM[/MEDIA] @00.19 stone cold tyres oversteer @01.20 lock front left @01.25 corkscrew entry oversteer @09.20 overtake black citreon @09.30 180 bend entry slight oversteer [B]Lap Times: (gears through 1st chicane, straights, 180 bend)[/B] 61s (2nd, 3rd, 3rd) 60s (3rd, 4th, 3rd) 58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 57.36 (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 57.32 (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) 58s (3rd, 3rd, 3rd) Once again the old rear tyres were very slippery when stone cold. The balance stabilises after a few laps & tyres heated back up. Assessing & comparing my laps to the previous trackday, it felt quite good near the end. My fastest lap of 57.32sec is approx 0.20s faster, mostly due to improved acceleration from the cold air intake ducting in the wing panel and can brake much later with the fresh front brakes. [ATTACH type="full"]77912[/ATTACH] [/QUOTE]
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