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PollyMobiles Rebuild

The rubber on the pan, sure it's oil resistant?, Just it may also break down as well specially off the heat cycles ect has a few bike engines with cheap rubber seals break down prematurely ,would a old bit of rocker cover gasket.work better as that should be more resistant to oil heat cycles
 

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The rubber on the pan, sure it's oil resistant?, Just it may also break down as well specially off the heat cycles ect has a few bike engines with cheap rubber seals break down prematurely.......
My immediate thought as well, always best to test materials. Put some in an old sauce pan, add engine oil and stick on a camping gas stove, well away from the house, and cycle a few times and see what happens to it.........
 
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parents pug 307 has been blowing badly and I thought the downpipe I welded had cracked again.
so I removed the downpipe and it turns out my welded bracket was all fine and it's actually the welded flange which has rusted away

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wirebrushed it clean

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after welding together, it's now all quiet :cool:

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grinded off & smoothed out all the obsolete MAF & waxstat bits on the throttle body

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centered the throttle bore on the lathe

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machined the bore from 45.5mm up to 49.5mm diameter :)

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smooth finish

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chamfered the edge for a smoother flow

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nice as usual ! that peugeot thing can't you just throw it all in the bin ? :)
the whole car or the downpipe :p
it ain't my car and rather not spend much on it myself.
it's my only commute whilst fixing kasandra so I just needed to fix these minor issues quickly & cheaply :cool:
 
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brass disc arrived. machined it down but accidentally went too far at 48.5mm rather than 49.5mm diameter :mad: ordered another one

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drilled the screw holes

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old 45mm plate vs new 49mm
this'll make breathing abit different eh

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all assembled clean & shiny & simpler :cool:

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just need to remake the butterfly disc & seal up those holes
 

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Those the original butterfly fixing screws Paul? Traditionally they have split ends, that protrude through the shaft, that can be spread to prevent them unscrewing and falling into the inlet if they come loose.....
 
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Those the original butterfly fixing screws Paul? Traditionally they have split ends, that protrude through the shaft, that can be spread to prevent them unscrewing and falling into the inlet if they come loose.....
yup original. I'll just nip em up real tight with a dab of threadlock.
 

John_D

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yup original. I'll just nip em up real tight with a dab of threadlock.
Ok Paul, not being critical, just conditioned to mentally running an FMEA on anything that changes/gets redesigned........i.e. 'what can go wrong?' 'what are the consequences of it going wrong?' 'what can be done to stop the original possible failure' and then start the loop again 'what can go wrong with the change that prevents the initial failure possibility?' etc etc......;)
I originally designed high speed production line machinery and to go through this procedure (on major projects, formally, with an FMEA committee,) could save lots of problems in the future. :cool:
 
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Fitting Dual Exhaust Pipe For Neilio's Ford Focus

A m8 I see at the regular car meets needed help with installing a 2nd-hand Dual tail pipe exhaust onto his diesel Focus to replace the boring hidden single pipe

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he also wanted to remove the backbox to try get more noise from the muffled TDI

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chopped & bypassed the silencer

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so here's the new exhaust he brought online and after close inspection, holy mother jeesus christ this is by far the WORST exhaust I've ever seen with stevie wonder pigeon poo welding :eek::LOL::poop::unsure::mad:
just LOOK AT IT! :sick:

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looking inside was shocking

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absolutely no way I'm fitting this shyte work, so decided I'll have to salvage the good bits and reconstruct the whole thing from scratch :confused:
turning from a simple hour job into a weekend mission :rolleyes:

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constructed the tail pipe to the correct distance

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bypassed the backbox with a straight pipe. went for a quick drive without any backbox or tail pipe and for a TDI it's surprisingly quieter than mine, sounds normal. wtf was the point of that huge silencer then? :unsure:

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initially the pipes were gonna sit under the bumper but Neilio says it might be too low for bumps and doesn't mind having to cut holes

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next day I marked & dremelled some holes in the rear bumper to raise the pipes further up to sit much better like this :cool:

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but disaster, whilst chopping it at an awquid angle I nudged the serrated dremel blade for a millisec and OUCH :eek::sick::poop:
went to the sink to see how bad it was and OMG blood's flowing at quite a rate :oops:
tried a plaster over it but it seeps out! crap what do I do? fear I hit an artery/vein

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managed to bandage it up from my car's little emergency 1st aid bag, sister rushed over to help.
worrying I might need stitches in hospital if it didn't stop bleeding and gotta finish this exhaust on a sunday for the guy.
thankfully the bandage & gloves held up and it stopped later on

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tacked & welded all the pipes & hangers on

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much better

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fits like a glove

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now that looks the business :cool::cool:

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inside the standard inlet manifold are these roughly cut edges, not good for airflow

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so after a lot of dremel grinding, it's much smoother inside and trimmed a bit of the lip to clear the larger 50mm TB

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give it a good thorough wash in detergent to clear out all the mess :cool:

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the 1st butterfly plate was machined too small accidentally, so ordered another brass disc

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machined down to precisely match the 49.57mm bore and now it fits extremely snug with no light peeking through the closed valve like the original :)

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machined this plug to seal off the hole where the MAF was

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lockwired the screws on the belt tensioner so it'll never vibrate loose again

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now with the engine side done, time to prep the engine bay.
removed the master cylinder for access to a rusty corner in the bulkhead

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looks like water had seeped past the old sealant and rusted that panel join but thankfully the thicker strut top is still solid and I just need to repair the tin foil inner section

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pollyp

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chopped out the rot

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found yet more holes on the scuttle panel, all these plastic clips simply trapped moisture :rolleyes:

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getting abit carried away with cutting tools :LOL:

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had to stop myself at some point like..

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more trapped rust

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gave it a lick of red oxide paint that a m8 suggested :cool:

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welded up the panels

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sealed all the gaps with Tigerseal (grinded all the welds smooth next day btw)

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undersealed the whole bulkhead

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part of the engine loom near the gromet was left exposed for years, so while unravelling the old hardened oily tape to clean the wires, I ended up opening the whole thing apart to re-do neater :p

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thing's never simple.
1 curious fix always leads to another several more fixes :rolleyes:
 
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pollyp

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wrapped up each circuit and then bunched them into the final loom

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reinstalled the PAS system so I can replumb the low pressure return side over to the un-used automatic gearbox cooler in the radiator and get rid of that old PAS cooler

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the automatic cooler is too small @ 8mm

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so I threaded an adapter to bring it up to 10mm for the PAS system

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begin planning the route

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LiamC

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wrapped up each circuit and then bunched them into the final loom

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reinstalled the PAS system so I can replumb the low pressure return side over to the un-used automatic gearbox cooler in the radiator and get rid of that old PAS cooler

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the automatic cooler is too small @ 8mm

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so I threaded an adapter to bring it up to 10mm for the PAS system

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begin planning the route

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I have always wondered if any people would take advantage of that secondary part of the radiator for those who use the thick auto rads for oil cooling etc but never seen it done
 
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pollyp

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I have always wondered if any people would take advantage of that secondary part of the radiator for those who use the thick auto rads for oil cooling etc but never seen it done
indeed I once thought about using it as oil cooler but seemed abit risky if it went wrong
 
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had to go through a few iterrations of routes to keep the bends few & simple and out the way

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the final simple layout was to just plumb the return line through the empty chassis rail (which would also be great for hiding the engine loom) :cool:

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it goes straight across to the other side of the radiator avoiding the red hot exhaust

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and down to the little cooler (and if the radiator exchanger wasn't helping, I could just join the two pipes up to form the same original PAS cooler)

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indeed it was a really annoying detail, so with the engine sloping at 1deg

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I removed the RH mount, dropped the engine down till it sat level and the front mount holes sit where it should, and redrilled this hole 25mm further down

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later figured I could just fit some 7mm spacers so the hole didn't have to be soo low and stop the mount getting too close to the chassis

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now it sits nicely level :cool:

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continue quickly fitting everything in

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checking the turbo. considering it's been running at full boost with zero oil pressure for a few seconds while going uphill when the forged engine blew up, I'm so lucky the bearings are still snug and nothing's damaged

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almost there :D
 
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It's been an interesting and very exhausting week resolving all her little issues so here's what happened:

Everything assembled.
Figured this old bottle of octane booster had the right size neck to use as a coolant filler funnel, it makes filling & bleeding soooo much easier & cleaner.
Battery has been flat at 11v for the past 3 months so I trickle charged it back to 12.6v

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primed the oil, took a few dozen slow turns for the dry engine to build enough oil pressure before it cranked more freely which was a relief.
just realised in time that I forgot to tighten the fuel rail hose before I primed it :oops: that could've been bad with fuel spraying everywhere :poop:

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video of the 1st fire ups


after all that priming, the battery & jump starter was totally flat :cautious:
so I hooked up a battery from the Peugeot to boost it

engine immediately fired up on the 1st crank! :D:D she friggin works

PAS tank quickly runs empty & whines and the old belt was slipping, so I added more fluid till it builds pressure and the cooler hose POPs off! spewing red oil across the floor :eek:
tried a tighter clamp but still leaked so I just bypassed the cooler for now.
the PAS kept churning the oil into foam and whenever I add fluid, turn steering or turn it off, the compressed foam gushes back out the tank into a mess, as if there's a blockage or the hoses are stretching :confused:

syphoned & replaced the PAS oil and managed to bleed it.

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with all fluids bled & warm, time for her first drive :)

trying to steer out the garage and bloody hell** the rebuilt LSD is soo stiff, steering is soo stiff when the diff locks, the brakes are probably binding slightly and the machined throttle plate sometimes doesn't fully shut & will need more smoothing, but damn I forgot how hardcore she is to drive and missed her choochoo noises :D:love:

next day I replaced the belt, loosened the sticky brakes, straighten the alignment and measured the LSD preload was off the chart :oops:
woops built the LSD with too many plates & not enough preload so it becomes insanely biased. loose on left turns but locks totally aggressive & understeery on tight slow right turns :eek: (great for launching although tyres are now old & hard, bad for u-turns)

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replaced all the stratchy silicone hoses in the PAS lines with stiffer rubber.

the PAS had tons of trapped air and I figured how to bleed it by:
- turning full lock, start engine briefly, it sucks in fresh clean oil till the tank ran low, stop engine before it churns.
- turn other way, syphon out any foamy oil, refill tank, restart engine, sucks yet more fresh oil till a big pocket of air escapes from the return pipe, stop engine.
- rinse/repeat till there's no more foaming.


so I went for a proper test drive at night and it's soo nice to have her back, she feels quite different after spending 3 months in a peugeot :ROFLMAO:

the only major issue was a serious leaning-out & knocking at specific rpm in 1st/2nd gear at WOT full boost :unsure:
I swapped back to the standard TB and the AFR was back to normal :confused:

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checking the mapping readout, it seems the enlarged TB was flowing a lot more air than the map expected throwing the mixture wayy off at high load

I also discovered this map I last ran on the standard block with the cracked ringlands had this worrying closed-loop section as the boost begins to build:eek: wtf was I thinking? maybe that error could've caused the detonation all along?

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reloaded the original mapping for the turbo'd standard block & hope she behaves now

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after discovering the bigger shiny TB flows too much and would require remapping to properly use it,
rather than simply slap the old ugly dirty standard TB on, I prefered the smooth flow of the new one so I decided to machine this simple removable restriction tube which slides into the new TB to reduce it back from 50mm to normal 45mm

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and IT WORKED :D wow the AFR are sooo perfect and damn she pulls hard like a train :love:
the important thing to note with this fresh standard engine is she no longer drinks or burn/smokes oil, all cylinders are an equal 11.1bars and the crank spins sooo smooth (the old forged engine shaked a lot) :cool:
this is probably the best engine I've ever built.

replaced her front grill cos I snapped the old grill mounts & don't need the cooling gaps anymore. the odd green gives her a superhero mask :LOL::cool:

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there's been an odd oil staining in the engine bay and traced it down to simply forgetting to fit the big washer on the crank pulley :rolleyes::unsure: doh!

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filmed a cheeky rev too, behold at how she has quit smoking & turned into a good girl :D:giggle:

 

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I had to swap back to the standard TB a while back due to a MAF fault with the GA15 TB, and have now kept it on. From feel it is just as powerful, but a smoother and nicer drive. Doubt I will go back to a GA15 TB now....
 
Ours was mapped for the GA15 TB, given the inlet manifold is the real restriction on air flow it may be that there is little be gained by the wider TB?
That would tie in, mine is running a fabricated (not by me) inlet manifold, I don't have an idea about how much power it gained but it's behaving itself, the MAF sensor we determined before tuning was the same item in the GA15 as the CG13 so if you were able to compare raw signal outputs from the MAF in both cases it might give an idea of whether it's able to use that extra flow capability.

I wonder if much of the benefit of ITBs (not the better throttle response I know about that) is just getting rid of a restrictive inlet manifold?
 
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it seems enlarging the tight throttle body neck by just a few mm makes a big difference in peak airflow till it maxes out the next restriction in the system, such as the tiny exhaust manifold and the rough/poor flowing inlet manifold, and even more with boost.

this will obviously throw the MAF values wayy off spec so the ECU would need recalibrating/remapped back to safe levels.

hmm looks easy enough to make 1 day :)
 
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so after driving her for the past week with the poor cold weather getting her all filthy, here are a few findings:

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- the Odyssey gel battery seems to be struggling more to hold enough charge nowadays. leaving it at 11v for the past 3 months since blowing up the engine certainly didn't help it. just powering up the LED lights or headlights or ignition for over 10mins quickly drains all the juice till it struggles to crank.

- the gearbox input shaft end roller bearing sounds like it's worn. it rattles badly when idling with stone cold gear oil and slightly better once warmed up but doesn't whine under load in-gear so the deep-groove ball bearing clutch end is probably ok.

- LSD preload values are now at both extreme ends of the scale. the deceleration ramp shows 0Nm while the acceration ramp is still over +200Nm (turning into a 1-way diff) so it's definately setup wrong now with too many plates and no enough preload.
due to the biased diff layout, LH turns are normal but whenever I turn right it locks up tight and either chatters loudly with the clutch depressed or skips the inside tyre. 3 point turns are a nightmare. so I definately need to reconfigure the LSD next time I remove the gearbox.

- there's no longer any major oil leak other than a slightly staining turbo drain fitting, and she doesn't burn or smoke any oil at all nowadays :cool:

- catch cans are working really well with this new engine, capturing a massive 400ml per 1000miles compared to the previous 150-200ml, and it's mainly water & fuel vapour.

- AFR mixtures are running perfect and even when coasting in high-gear, where she used to richen 9-11afr once under 1700rpm, it stays above 14afr :)

- old wiper motor connectors were recently getting rusty & faulty so I dismantled, wirebrushed & greased all the terminals and working nicely again.
 
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