Ga16de conversion gearbox

[micra.jas]

I might be buying the ga16 k11 i was offerd last month....it has the cg13de box mounted to it.

Is this correct and will the gearbox and clutch all work ok?

It drives as i tested it yesterday.

He is also running the k11 ecu but again is this ok or can i plumb in my megasquirt ecu and create my own base map?

 

[h701micra]

Yes to the gearbox etc

You'll more than just the ecu to run your megasquirt

 

[micra.jas]

Ideal so gearbox is fine....to run megasquirt all i need is the connector plug e.c.t

 

[h701micra]

Yup gearbox is fine but power will be limited and top end

You'll need a ford edis system, coilpack and plugs no?

 

[Enuo]

I think a micra paddle clutch can handle 300hp though, so with a 200mm micra flywheel you're not gunna be lacking headroom... 150hp is the highest you can really expect to go n/a from what I've seen, butnmuch over stock the 1.3 180mm gearbox will struggle with the torque of the bigger engine I would guess

 

[h701micra]

A ga can do 180hp n/a takes alot of work though
Not had any experience with my micra boxes attached to ga... just know they work

 

[Enuo]

A ga can do 180hp n/a takes alot of work though
Not had any experience with my micra boxes attached to ga... just know they work

Easier to get lighter cg flywheels and uprated clutches than ga, ignoring US imports. Can get a LSD built by matt humphries too. Just a shame about the shorter gearing really...

 

[Enuo]

A ga can do 180hp n/a takes alot of work though
Not had any experience with my micra boxes attached to ga... just know they work

And 180hp is nuts! 20hp more than highest I've ever heard a cg go, and probably masses more torque through the revs

 

[h701micra]

Lsd wouldn't be cheap I suspect.
I'd stick with ga stuff as it's proven
If you're running a cg box... a cg13 may as well be used because of its limitations in use with a ga16
Based on the assumption you're putting a ga16 in to get more power than capable by a cg?

 

[karlj]

Cg13 gearbox is good for 200hp, the biggest problem will be torque killing driveshafts

 

[micra.jas]

I only wanted to know if it worked as i need a car asap for work....the shell is a mint non welded 2000 facelift just needs a mot.

I wanted to use my megasquirt as im unaware how much work it will be to run a ga16 ecu.

I will change to a ga gearbox at a later date but i only drive 6 miles a day lol

 

[h701micra]

sorry
Its all info you can use later on

 

[frank]

I only wanted to know if it worked as i need a car asap for work....the shell is a mint non welded 2000 facelift just needs a mot.

I wanted to use my megasquirt as im unaware how much work it will be to run a ga16 ecu.

I will change to a ga gearbox at a later date but i only drive 6 miles a day lol

if its got a CG t/b fitted ?, it,ll run worse with a GA ecu jas

 

[h701micra]

Cg13 gearbox is good for 200hp, the biggest problem will be torque killing driveshafts

But a cg13 gets to 160/180bhp....
Just seems daft to fit a little gearbox to a bigger engine and limit its potential :/

 

[Enuo]

I only wanted to know if it worked as i need a car asap for work....the shell is a mint non welded 2000 facelift just needs a mot.

I wanted to use my megasquirt as im unaware how much work it will be to run a ga16 ecu.

I will change to a ga gearbox at a later date but i only drive 6 miles a day lol

If it has the engine loom from the donor car wiring shouldn't be too difficult to use the GA ecu, if its a nats 2 ecu you will need the transponder etc, as its not possible to work around it.

 

[karlj]

But a cg13 gets to 160/180bhp....
Just seems daft to fit a little gearbox to a bigger engine and limit its potential :/

It's not really a little gearbox though, yes it'll limit power on the 1.6 but only if pushing big power

 

[h701micra]

It's not really a little gearbox though, yes it'll limit power on the 1.6 but only if pushing big power

Well no I just mean 1.3 is smaller than 1.6

That's just my point you'd fit a ga16 if wanting to push big power no?

 

[micra.jas]

Yea i will run a ga16 box in good time.

I believe the engine originally had pre nats so guessing its from a p10 primera.

 

[micra.jas]

 

[h701micra]

Nats is all in the loom and ecu. If you run it on a prenats loom and ecu then job's a goodun

 

[karlj]

Well no I just mean 1.3 is smaller than 1.6

That's just my point you'd fit a ga16 if wanting to push big power no?

You would yes but as a stop gap the 1.3 box is more than capable

 

[h701micra]

Aye as a stop gap I totally agree

 

[Enuo]

I doubt asside from gearing and driveshaft size that theres much difference between the two... need to split my engine and gearbox and compare with someones cg box...

 

[frank]

they just used the k11 loom by the looks eh, i would fit a CG t/b personally

 

[Enuo]

they just used the k11 loom by the looks eh, i would fit a CG t/b personally

What about the dizzy? Different signal no?

 

[h701micra]

I doubt asside from gearing and driveshaft size that theres much difference between the two... need to split my engine and gearbox and compare with someones cg box...

Ratios and physical gear size

 

[karlj]

I doubt asside from gearing and driveshaft size that theres much difference between the two... need to split my engine and gearbox and compare with someones cg box...

the ga16 has the starter on the box rather than the engine

 

[frank]

What about the dizzy? Different signal no?

andy H says some GA dizzy,s are the 4 slot optical disc type iirc, plug-n-play maybe ?

 

[h701micra]

Like this Frank

 

[Enuo]

andy H says some GA dizzy,s are the 4 slot optical disc type iirc, plug-n-play maybe ?

:O omg wish I known this, I need to whip off my ga dizzy cap and look!

 

[h701micra]

:O omg wish I known this, I need to whip off my ga dizzy cap and look!

I covered it in my blog a while back when looking for a replacement dizzy

 

[Enuo]

I covered it in my blog a while back when looking for a replacement dizzy

I might have skim read it... I thought they were all 20 hole or whatever...

 

[h701micra]

I might have skim read it... I thought they were all 20 hole or whatever...

There's not much info... as I couldn't run it to be honest... but I can soon drag it out and dig some more?

 

[Enuo]

There's not much info... as I couldn't run it to be honest... but I can soon drag it out and dig some more?

Thats fine, I pretty much have the ga into cg wiring figured, so I got two options I guess if the dizzy is a 4 disc...