Expected BHP figure from a 1.3 Turbo

[hoodedreeper]

Hello,

Just before people say it,no i'm not considering adding a turbo to my 1.3 (well...not JUST yet )

I had a customer come into work today and we got chatting about Micras and i said i own a modified red k11. He then said hes got a K11 1.3 turbo,claiming to be pushing 190bhp.

I asked him how much its set him back for adding the conversion he said £1500. Also claims hes had 135mph out of it.

Now,i know i aint the most mechanically minded person in the world,but i sure know you cant get 190bhp out of a 1.3 T.

Unless some people know otherwise?

 

[frank]

it should,nt be a problem with forged internals and 2bar of boost, imo

 

[Paul Smith]

I reckon 190BHP is possible but i think unless he did everything himself (and i mean everything) £1500 is a load of cobblers.

 

[Antony]

its gonna cost you about that for an ecu, remap, turbo and forged internals... let alone anything else.

bearing in mind Nis managed 200+bhp from a highly strung CGa3DE.

 

[Alienfish360]

Forged internals from Ed will cost you around £1500 to £1700 plus ECU, but it is quite possible.

 

[Stani1029]

would this be the guy who posted a thread up saying guess whats under the bonnet and you were able to see the intercooler?? that was red...and if he has got 190bhp from it and its only cost £1500 then he could make a business out of it

 

[jdmk11mike]

depends on size of turbo,he could have a huuge turbo but takes ages to spool up

if he has good fuelling,good internals and engine managing then why not

hes probably talking shizzle though

 

[Alienfish360]

depends on size of turbo,he could have a huuge turbo but takes ages to spool up

if he has good fuelling,good internals and engine managing then why not

hes probably talking shizzle though

The thing to question is for £1500

 

[wgc_daz]

for that wadda i would have said more 130bhp then 190bhp

 

[Ed]

Point of reference, I made 190bhp @ 1.6 bar on a 0.9 litre engine...

James T made 200 bhp and 210lb/ft from a 1.4 K11 with pistons and rods at 1.0 bar. (stock cams/intake etc)

200bhp from a 1.3 is EASY with the right parts.

 

[wgc_daz]

i agree but not for 1500

 

[jdmk11mike]

i agree but not for 1500

i reckon if you have the correct fuelling theres a good chance 190 is feesable at 1500, lets face it, a turbo and manifold is gunna set you back what??atleast 50-100 quid(get a metal fabricator to modify your existing manifold with a turbo flange,and a 2nd hand turbo,ie t25 off a saab)

good engine managemnt (dta) is gunna set you back 1000 fitted(there are others but dta is the only management i know the price of fitted off the top of my head)

without strengthening the internals 190 is possible,as probably one of the main reason for compnent failure is the fuelling/timing etc, not enough fuel then your gunna run rich and this is gunna fcuk your engine up in no time!!

 

[Alienfish360]

i reckon if you have the correct fuelling theres a good chance 190 is feesable at 1500, lets face it, a turbo and manifold is gunna set you back what??atleast 50-100 quid(get a metal fabricator to modify your existing manifold with a turbo flange,and a 2nd hand turbo,ie t25 off a saab)

good engine managemnt (dta) is gunna set you back 1000 fitted(there are others but dta is the only management i know the price of fitted off the top of my head)

without strengthening the internals 190 is possible,as probably one of the main reason for compnent failure is the fuelling/timing etc, not enough fuel then your gunna run *rich* and this is gunna fcuk your engine up in no time!!

*lean*

Then you have to lower your compression ratio, fuel injectors, fuel pump and then there's how much power will the standard pistons and con-rods take.

 

[Stani1029]

once my car is done we will see how much power stock internals can take and at what boost. i do aim for 200bhp, and the cost for one attempt brand new parts is nothing like £1500, try double

 

[hoodedreeper]

He said he used a VXR turbo?

 

[Swiper]

He said he used a VXR turbo?

so a brand new turbo off an 08 reg car...theres not cheap from dealer? :S

 

[superls]

id say £1500 coud easily do it, what if he bought the parts (or some of them) second hand?

 

[jowley]

u could do it for 1500 nut not get 190bhp to get tht sorta power id say the cheapest would be 3000

 

[Flat_Out]

Stani i own the red k11 with the intercooler you are reffering too. I never claimed anything like that. i hadnt had time to write a spec sheet at the time, that was all. atleast u got the colour right. . .

 

[Stani1029]

Stani i own the red k11 with the intercooler you are reffering too. I never claimed anything like that. i hadnt had time to write a spec sheet at the time, that was all. atleast u got the colour right. . .

so what is it then, a show intercooler? i wasnt being cheeky when i mentioned that it might have been you

 

[Alienfish360]

so what is it then, a show intercooler? i wasnt being cheeky when i mentioned that it might have been you

I believe it's actually hooked up to his NA induction system, totally killing throttle response

 

[Stani1029]

ahh maybe we will find out from the man himself then eh?

 

[Flat_Out]

At the moment its linked to nothing. Its mounted there as im slowly building a turbo setup and that was one thing i wanted to get mounted and done. It was part of the induction setup but not anymore. Hope that clears up your querries


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