Bought one.

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Josho

Buy & Sell Member
Some may remember the controversial thread I made on Micra's once about how much I disliked them. It got deleted. :laugh:

Anyway, since joining I've become a qualified mechanic, worked on about 1000 too many Micra's and since my insurance rocketed and I want my Golf off the road to respray and do a lot of work to, I went halves with my sister on this POS little gem:

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It's a 1.3 and an Auto. Parkers reckons the 0-60 is the same as my Golf, which is amusing at 13seconds. Doubt it for both cars. Golf is a 1.6.

Going to bore me a lot this car. I can't do a great deal to it tbf as my sister hates the lowering of the Golf. So I'll just chuck some 40mm springs on it sometime. :laugh:

Anyone got any pictures of the steel wheels but in white with the caps in black or blue or something? :)

Probably do it.

It's a GX and I plan on tidying it up well, has the usual CVT light which I'll sort and hopefully will be "enjoying" the fuel consumption and cheap insurance soon.

Cheers.
 
Damn, automatic... :down: Let down...

You can only get the most out of a micra when the valve's are just about to exit the head :wasntme:
How you gonna achieve that with Automatic ! :O
 
Haha do the top speed everywhere.

If my sister wasn't set on an auto I'd have just chucked in a manual box.

Oh well, gotta be something good about Autos? Nah don't think there is. Especially the boxes on Micras, I HATE the way it changes gear. :laugh:
 
i reckon you might get 12 seconds 0 to 60 from the micra, they have a lot of poke
 
Cheers lads.

Golf is heavier but would leave this standing. Has a lot more torque and some head work and some lumpier cams so it doesn't idle properly. :laugh:

But would have left it standard.

Got all my speakers in, just the sub and amp to do. Flipping rattly cars tho aren't they?

Rocker cover in, no leaks which is awesome. Gonna order some Gunk and get cleaning the bay. Oh and I got some 10mm bolts but they only go in a couple of threads, so the screws went back in all but one which I drilled out and just used a 10mm. Will be getting the longer ones and replacing them though.

This car is ISO for the stereo as standard, isn't it?
 
A 1600cc golf would get destroyed by a 1300cc manual Micra I've not long since got rid of my 1800cc valver gti and that didn't really set the world on fire especially on the b roads! My 1000cc k10 would kick it's ass! I
'm btw not some little bummer I've got currently 5 cars Micra, impreza (that is for sale still!), s14 350+bhp, rx8 still not home yet, s13 280bhp. I'm fully qualified nvq lv 4 mechanic and run my own business
Tbh an auto would struggle against anything, but get a manual box slapped on it and you'll feel a world of difference
Micras are a massively underrated car, be careful the longer you spend toying with it the more you'll grow to love it :)
Near enough everyone on this forum who tunes their micras discovered their potential by mistake, me included! I got one as a hire car while the insurance sorted my civic out years ago and I've been hooked ever since
 
an 1800 16v golf GTi, especially a mk2 would leave a stock manual k11 standing in every situation. The best 0-60 I could get out of my k11's was somewhere in the high 10's.
 
Ian said:
an 1800 16v golf GTi, especially a mk2 would leave a stock manual k11 standing in every situation. The best 0-60 I could get out of my k11's was somewhere in the high 10's.
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I completely disagree as I owned both at the same time drove them back to back! The gti is quicker 0-60 but down the twisties my micra easily accelerate out of the corner faster, as I live in the sticks all the roads are windy and tight and the Micra feels much nippier
 
gtsnissanb said:
I completely disagree as I owned both at the same time drove them back to back! The gti is quicker 0-60 but down the twisties my micra easily accelerate out of the corner faster, as I live in the sticks all the roads are windy and tight and the Micra feels much nippier
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:laugh:

Micra in all fairness has the Golf til about 40MPH then the Golf just owns. Once they're both moving the golf will out pull it round any corner in the right gear. On the motorway even the 1.6 Golf absolutely dominates, it loved sitting at 100 and would sit there ADL, the Micra won't even reach 100 but does sit at 80/90 alright.

Anyway, the car is going. I made some speaker spacers out of 12mm MDF. I will prime and paint them and they are for sale if anyone wants them. Took a bit of time to make but the door trims go on perfectly after and can fit normal speakers in!
 
gtsnissanb said:
A 1600cc golf would get destroyed by a 1300cc manual Micra I've not long since got rid of my 1800cc valver gti and that didn't really set the world on fire especially on the b roads! My 1000cc k10 would kick it's ass! I
'm btw not some little bummer I've got currently 5 cars Micra, impreza (that is for sale still!), s14 350+bhp, rx8 still not home yet, s13 280bhp. I'm fully qualified nvq lv 4 mechanic and run my own business
Tbh an auto would struggle against anything, but get a manual box slapped on it and you'll feel a world of difference
Micras are a massively underrated car, be careful the longer you spend toying with it the more you'll grow to love it :)
Near enough everyone on this forum who tunes their micras discovered their potential by mistake, me included! I got one as a hire car while the insurance sorted my civic out years ago and I've been hooked ever since
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The 0-60 on the auto/manual is no different and the auto keeps up with the manual all the way to 60. I work on Nissans day in day out. I assume it's the Nissan box, very good boxes in all fairness. As I said, to 40 the Micra gets off quicker as do the manual 1.3's. After the the Golf just leaves it. After 60 the Micra is just gutless and takes an age. This also applies to the manual.

Well I've had the car a couple of weeks and I still don't know about it tbh. I don't like the suspension. It handles OK but then on the rebound it starts understeering. Don't like the fact the seat doesn't go back enough and it's uncomfortable, loud, rattly and squeaky.

Also pretty crap on fuel on the motorway. Driven carefully round town and at 56MPH then yeah, MPG heaven.
 
i am sorry but i will have to agree with gtsnissanb because i have just passed my test and i have the 1997 black micra k11 SR and that has already a really nice sound. :) and as it been said the golf is more heavier so the bhp and torque wont matter because the car is heavier. so you are getting almost the same result but were as the micra are only like 800kg they are light and very quick around the conners i will have to say. i have a manual one and it really nice drive. the only bad thnig is that it does not have power steering but apart from that its a nice weight and would hammer a golf on a quater mile i know it. also people think are boring to play around i have had the car for about 5 months before i passed my test and i am still not done playing around with it. the more you play around the more hidden power you may find in the micra. :)
 
OK let's put it this way.

Golf 1.6 V 1.3 Micra, Golf far more fun and rips the Micra on a slip road on a motorway.

I know this because I have done it.

That said they are both slow cars and the Mica's going and a VR6 engine dropped into the Golf. (Y)

Anyone want the speaker rings?
 
karlj said:
Why buy the micra of you hate them that much?
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He's a troll
Vr6 golf wow!!
Because I don't own 5 cars that would **** a VR6 all day long not even starting on a ####ty 1600cc POS rust bucket, a 1.6 golf fun??? Yeah maybe if you 2nd most fun past time is incest
 
gtsnissanb said:
He's a troll
Vr6 golf wow!!
Because I don't own 5 cars that would **** a VR6 all day long not even starting on a ####ty 1600cc POS rust bucket, a 1.6 golf fun??? Yeah maybe if you 2nd most fun past time is incest
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go on, ill have a go...

get your vr6..... or even an r32 engine in your 1.6 tonne golf and ill give you a drag race or even on a track day at cadwell park, in my MR2.
240bhp 230ft/lbs 3.0 Quad cam 24V V6. (not that dohc straight 6 you VW lot call a V) 1200kg's mid engined rear wheel drive, 0-60 in 6.3 seconds 13.9 1/4 mile........

and believe me when i say that even the mk4 GTI 2.0 was a full second slower to 60 than a 1300 micra. it was slower than a diesel auto rover 200... see top gear
 
Antony said:
go on, ill have a go...

get your vr6..... or even an r32 engine in your 1.6 tonne golf and ill give you a drag race or even on a track day at cadwell park, in my MR2.
240bhp 230ft/lbs 3.0 Quad cam 24V V6. (not that dohc straight 6 you VW lot call a V) 1200kg's mid engined rear wheel drive, 0-60 in 6.3 seconds 13.9 1/4 mile........

and believe me when i say that even the mk4 GTI 2.0 was a full second slower to 60 than a 1300 micra. it was slower than a diesel auto rover 200... see top gear
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Lol
We will all meet up and bring our best let see this amazing golf take on my 400bhp s14

You know what I'll save the petrol and just come in my Renault traffic van equipt with all my tools and junk and it still will demolish a 1600 golf
 
let me turbo my V6 and ill take on your 400bhp s14..lol:wasntme:

ive got over 200ft/lbs from 1200rpm through to 3500rpm.:grinning:
 
yeah, supercharger for the 1mz-fe is available, but is £2500, then another £1000 for fitting (as it needs parts machining) but a gt25-60rs turbo running at 5 psi should gve me 280-300 bhp and over 300ft/lbs torque. mmmmm:p
 
Antony said:
yeah, supercharger for the 1mz-fe is available, but is £2500, then another £1000 for fitting (as it needs parts machining) but a gt25-60rs turbo running at 5 psi should gve me 280-300 bhp and over 300ft/lbs torque. mmmmm:p
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Gt2560r is that the t28r on a s15 I remember it's got another name than 28r but can't remember! Or is it the hks one?
The problem you'll have is the V which side would you mount it, and one side of the head would flow different to the other it would end up sounding like a impreza lol that's why most would sc a V engine, would the mini charger not be suitable? You can get them cheap then just need find a decent mounting position near the pulleys (not fun on a MR2 my gts turbo is a nightmare to get down amongst the pulleys!)
 
you can fit a supercharger from the scion TC in the states but it takes alot of fabrication.

there is a TRD supercharger that fits. but its expensive.

the turbo option is easier as you just fit the turbo on the Y pipe joiner. no problems with the two banks of cylinders..
or you can re-route the exhausts to where the inlet is atm. and plonk a turbo in there...

the GT25-60 is a T25 turbine and T28 compressor.... also called the disco potato (as used on the escort cossie)
 
Antony said:
you can fit a supercharger from the scion TC in the states but it takes alot of fabrication.

there is a TRD supercharger that fits. but its expensive.

the turbo option is easier as you just fit the turbo on the Y pipe joiner. no problems with the two banks of cylinders..
or you can re-route the exhausts to where the inlet is atm. and plonk a turbo in there...

the GT25-60 is a T25 turbine and T28 compressor.... also called the disco potato (as used on the escort cossie)
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It is a gt28r that's the other name for it :) as used on the standard s15 silvia that's why it has 250bhp as opposed to the s14 200bhp using a t28
Disco potato gt28rs isnt it?

I didn't think it joint together I'd presumed you'd have made twin exits that's why I though it would be difficult
Anyway, what about the MR2 supercharger they originally came with I'd imagine they won't be difficult to get hold of or expensive, think they are similar to the trd ones any way? I'm researching for my missis celica Gt it's the 170bhp model import, none turbo! I'm thinking of s/c conversion instead of just banging on the turbo bits, be a different for me
 
okay lets put it this way firstly you tried a auto v manual which makes it #### already..... and that why you said the golf is rips.. and you say it more fun micras are JDM cars :D that already a WIN. also why are you doing a golf 1.6 engine to a micra 1.3 engine. firstly if you say your golf is more fun then try finding a person on here with a conversion to a SR20 engine and then try racing them with your golf. you will get left behind like a used ****. also probably your golf has got a turbo on. which make it rips. and finally they have not comparision to each other one is heavy one is lighter, one has a bigger engine and the other doesnt and is manual and the other is auto. so think about it and then start an arguement. and if you are thinging of going to the JAE then bring your golf with you :D and see how slow it actually is.
 
mine is the mk2 mr2, the mk1 came with a supercharger in japan only and is like rocking horse manuere to find.

the charger off the mr2 engine is nothing like the trd charger for the v6.. not any where near, the trd charger has half of the v6 manifold built into it.

DO NOT TURBO CHARGE YOUR ENGINE. seriously it is the biggest waste of time you can do. fitting a 3SGTE engine from the ST205 celica GT4 is much easier, cheaper and much much more reliable... the n/a 3sge engine in your celica has thinner block, thinner pistons, worse cylinder head, rubbish cams, rubbish inlet manifold etc etc. the 3SGTE has under piston oil sprayers, heavy duty conrods, heavy duty pistons, heavy duty head studs, better injection system with bigger injectors.

the 3sge was designed as an na engine, the 3sgte is designed as a turbo engine.... its almost impossible to mix the two even though they share the same history.



and anyway, a V6 conversion will take you to 240bhp and 220ft/lbs torque without a turbo...
 
The v swap seem a better idea for the mr2 as ultimately I bet the v engine has a larger tuning scope for the money as the MR2 iirc turbo is only good for 300bhp maximum before you have to forge it, I was going to wack the boost up on mine asked the mr2 oc what I could do with it and was shocked by the low bhp the standard engine can take! Considering the sr20det can easily handle 400bhp! I see why you have opted for the V6 over the turbo engine as the standard ps on the V6 is pretty much as much as you can safely run the 3sgte with out internal mods.
Might be a better idea for me to look into V swap in the celica instead of 3s engine tuning, or go nuts and drop in a 1 or 2jz lol
 
it know funny how he has nothing to say about micras because he doesnt know the hidden power behind this little JDM car. :) i love them, best first car :). know i dunno why i wanted a fiat punto. i want my micra for aslong as i can keep it. i dont understand why he hates them. he should have paid the high insurance for the golf and be happy. :) peace out
 
strange, the 3SGTE can handle 500bhp with stock internals...

but


there are differences in specs, the best engine for tuning is the REV1. as it has the strongest parts.
the rev2-3 has better power from stock but has a thinner block.
rev 4-5 has the most power from the factory but will not handle any more than 350bhp without changing the conrods.

the v6 will handle over 900bhp with only changing pistons (as they are the only weak point of this engine) but can take 400bhp with ease. 360bhp at just 11psi.
 
Mine was a rev 2 when I asked on the MR2oc I got shouted at by about 10 people that the engine can't be pushed past 300bhp without some work on the internals

Said thread
http://mr2oc.co.uk/ocforum/viewtopic.php?t=146479
 
rubish. they can handle upto 400bhp with "acurate and adequate" mapping.

admitedly you are pushing the envelope a little.... you are better off with a celica GT4 WRC engine (or rev 1) and do your work on that as its stronger from the outset....

but V6 is the way to go, £3780 for the conversion with a brand new engine, new gearbox, longer 5th gear ratio and every hose pipe and clip brand new, detailed and painted in whatever colour you want..... (paul woods at woodsport) then you can trbo charge it for another £1500 (eventualy) and even at 5psi you will be running close to 300bhp and well over 300ft/lbs.
9 psi will see you 370bhp and more torque than you can shake a stick at..

the biggest difference i have found with my v6 is the torque available from 1800rpm-2000-rpm... the torque curve is almost virtical it goes from 100ftlbs to 170ftlbs in 200rpm! and stays over 180ftlbs all the way through to 5500rpm.
thats a stock engine, with decent exhaust and filter, advanced timing (to 17deg btdc) well over 200ftlbs is available from just 2200rpm. (Y)(Y)(Y)
 
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Seems I may have offended some. OK yes you may own a faster car then a VR6 Golf but by your own admission it's not a Micra now is it? fwn

The disscussion was between MY 1.6 Golf and MY Micra.

I bought the Micra as it's cheap and they are damned good little cars for what they are. They are not solidly built, fun, good on fuel on the motorways or as nippy as I thought.

Please believe me, the Golf is a far better car then the Micra, only issue is, it's more expensive to run. It's not even about speed.

I also wouldn't throw my toys out the pram if someone came on my local Golf forum and had a faster, better bult car. :laugh:
 
Yeah, shame you didn't pick up a manual micra, i know what your saying about the rated figures, heavier torque etc, personally i've only recently just gained a 1.6 marea which can pull 60 in just over 10 second (10.5 rated, i cant tell, wrong wheels), but let me assure you that my 1.0 had alot of kick in it, if i had a 1.3, i can tell that my marea wouldn't be able to keep up, just from the feel and competence of that engine. (CG series, unstoppable, up hills was mega fun too!)

Golf and Micra, both nice cars, But i'd easily give anything to have me another micra again :p (Its my February - March plan the more i think about it! o_O)

BTW i think their is an 8v ver of the 1.6? or smth similar which would explain the 0-60 in 13 (Which sounds about right tbh) 16v does it in 10.6 i believe!
 
also when you are driving them it not the car, it the drive. and agreed with MrMigs08 should have picked up a manual would have been much nicer. fwnfwn
 
Josho said:
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Seems I may have offended some. OK yes you may own a faster car then a VR6 Golf but by your own admission it's not a Micra now is it? fwn

The disscussion was between MY 1.6 Golf and MY Micra.

I bought the Micra as it's cheap and they are damned good little cars for what they are. They are not solidly built, fun, good on fuel on the motorways or as nippy as I thought.

Please believe me, the Golf is a far better car then the Micra, only issue is, it's more expensive to run. It's not even about speed.

I also wouldn't throw my toys out the pram if someone came on my local Golf forum and had a faster, better bult car. :laugh:
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tbh thats strange coz my ferrari is a lot better then my 1.0 mk1 fiesta :wasntme:
 
Ooh, a 1.3 auto, would love one of them. I presume by "CVT light" that it's the N-CVT (electromagnetic clutch) and not the H-CVT (torque converter) that replaced it from late 2000-2003. My subjective, fairly ignorant feeling is that the clutch is controlled a bit too conservatively by the CVT computer, perhaps to avoid damaging the stupidly expensive steel belt. Plus the clutch probably leaks out that magnetic powder over time and starts to slip more.
Once you get to even 60km/h or so on mine, putting your foot to the floor produces a loud hard-working engine noise but no noticeable difference in acceleration, hence the feeling that there's an easily-reached limit to how much torque that clutch will transfer.

I'd say the later torque converter models are completely different and nicer to drive. Ignoring the lack of poke on mine, I have to say it feels great to go from 0 to motorway speeds without ever jolting between gears! Plus, amazing in slow traffic - mine's out of commission until I can replace a rad and get the dash back in, so I was driving a 1.4 Scenic 2003 manual today in heavy traffic, which was less fun. :grinning:
 

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