1.3 into 1.0 engine swap (again!)

[Vulture20]

Hi Folks

Sorry, I know this has been discussed to death, but some of the threads seem to contradict each other.

We have a 2000 W plate non-coil pack 1.0 rally car. We fancy a bit more power, but still want to be able to return it to Junior 1000 spec with not much hassle. The wiring in the car is standard-ish, with a standard mapping but immobiliser-less ECU.

If I get hold of a 1.3 short engine only:

a) will it fit retaining all the other parts (g/box, manifolds etc)?
b) Does the ECU need to be changed?

Anything I need to be aware of?

Cheers
Jools

 

[karlj]

Straight swap just need to keep your 1.0 f/w and clutch to use the 1.0 gearbox

 

[Vulture20]

Straight swap just need to keep your 1.0 f/w and clutch to use the 1.0 gearbox

Really? Same ECU? Is it that simple?

 

[karlj]

If you want to make it harder could try installing it upside down

 

[Vulture20]

If you want to make it harder could try installing it upside down

LOL! Right, we have a rally at Crail airfield in a couple of weeks, lets get this done for then. Thanks for the help.

Cheers
Jools

 

[frank]

dont forget to fit the 1.0 pistons into it jools

 

[Vulture20]

dont forget to fit the 1.0 pistons into it jools

Eh? I'm trying to keep it simple!

 

[frank]

Eh? I'm trying to keep it simple!

flat-top aint they gives a c/r of about 11.5:1

 

[Vulture20]

flat-top aint they gives a c/r of about 11.5:1

Tempting, but I'm looking at a simple power increase. Swap the engines, put the original ancilliaries back, plug in the wiring - that should do it!

 

[Vulture20]

OK, you were correct. Swapped the engines, kept the 1.0 flywheel, clutch and gearbox. Rallied her at the weekend and she was great! So yes - it is a straight swap!

 

[Belly93]

Would it be this simple to swap a 1.0 with a 1.4 in a 2000 coilpack engine and would the ecu need to be swapped?

 

[Vulture20]

Would it be this simple to swap a 1.0 with a 1.4 in a 2000 coilpack engine and would the ecu need to be swapped?

To clarify, I put in a 1275 non-coil pack. Same ecu as the 1.0.

 

[Belly93]

I know I just wasn't sure if it was as simple to swap a coilpack engine because I'm hoping to go to a bigger engine when my insurance drops

 

[kirkdass]

thank you guys .This information is very helpfull.

 

[Jimmy Micra]

To clarify, I put in a 1275 non-coil pack. Same ecu as the 1.0.

I've a 1.3 non coil pack pre-NATs engine I want to put into my non coil pack NATS 1.0.. Will the 1.0 NATS ECU run the 1275 without any fuelling or ignition issues?