1.0l coilpack losing power and trying to stall

[sr_steve]

Car: micra s k11 2000 1.0l coilpack:
Basically bought the car yesterday, test drove fine, drove back fine until I got to my street, went over speed bump then went to accelerate in 2nd and it started to die, lose power and trying to stall. It also did stall a couple of times. Every time I revved it, it would get to 2000rpm then give up. It does it in all gears. On tick over the revs are up and down but only slightly. I left it for a bit drove round the estate fine then just as I wad getting back it did it again.

Problems I've found which I didn't notice or check when buying:
No fuel filter, rubber piped just joined together
No water in radiator or overflow tank.

Got the diagnostic kit out and 0 problems came up also engine management light not on.

Tried to explain as best as I can. Please help I need this for work

 

[jk9194]

i got same problem as yours so i am trying to solve this problem asap.

i think my battery is flat out or could be wrong with this alternator I have no idea though

 

[sr_steve]

i got same problem as yours so i am trying to solve this problem asap.

i think my battery is flat out or could be wrong with this alternator I have no idea though

Hi chat Doesnt work on my phone. And thanks for reply I didn't notice the battery light flashing. I even drove with every electrical thing I could think of on but still the same happened. I did notice as it was trying to die the lights were going dimmer. But don't know if it would do that anyway

 

[sr_steve]

Also very poor fuel consumption

 

[Elonexx]

if it's got no filter, won't it be sucking up crap?

 

[xXturtleXx91]

I would have thought that if it made your lights dim, your battery doesn't have enough juice in it to run the car properly. Which would lead to either the alternator is on its way out or it could be dicky cables but more than likely the alternator out of the two.

 

[jk9194]

Problems I've found which I didn't notice or check when buying:
No fuel filter, rubber piped just joined together
No water in radiator or overflow tank.

you need to sort this out asap tho

 

[sr_steve]

if it's got no filter, won't it be sucking up crap?

I thought that but it ran fine until it warmed up, It didn't have much petrol in. I thought maybe it might of been filled with a can with crap in the bottom but I don't really know :/

I would have thought that if it made your lights dim, your battery doesn't have enough juice in it to run the car properly. Which would lead to either the alternator is on its way out or it could be dicky cables but more than likely the alternator out of the two.

You think I should remove battery and get it checked? Anyway of checking alternator?

 

[jk9194]

Hi chat Doesnt work on my phone. And thanks for reply I didn't notice the battery light flashing. I even drove with every electrical thing I could think of on but still the same happened. I did notice as it was trying to die the lights were going dimmer. But don't know if it would do that anyway

i lose my power when i turn around, 3 points turn, reverse from my high steep driveway to the main road, changing into gear 2 and approaching on end of these roads. its happen only in cold weathers. Right now, my car is warm so its okay to run. it wasnt happen in snow time cos it was okay. i am confusing tho cos its different

when i lose my power so my engine is stop and the battery flash shown up.

 

[Elonexx]

alternator should run 12v i think?

someone correct me lol

 

[Elonexx]

anything like this?

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=88997

 

[jk9194]

Also very poor fuel consumption

if its very poor fuel consumption then you will need to check these service parts

 

[Elonexx]

i'd start with putting a fuel filter in, it can;t be doing it any good without one

 

[sr_steve]

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anything like this?

http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=88997

Literally a perfect explanation for what mines doing. Spot on

 

[Elonexx]

check that then
and get a filter! XD

 

[sr_steve]

i lose my power when i turn around, 3 points turn, reverse from my high steep driveway to the main road, changing into gear 2 and approaching on end of these roads. its happen only in cold weathers. Right now, my car is warm so its okay to run. it wasnt happen in snow time cos it was okay. i am confusing tho cos its different

when i lose my power so my engine is stop and the battery flash shown up.

That sounding abit different to what mines doing. Have a look at link elone just put on. That explains my problem

 

[jk9194]

do you know what...... get a new battery or borrow it from your close msc friend. if its ok then do major service.

 

[jk9194]

yea i did this link before so i soldered it then remove this cold idle. aaah man i should not remove this cold idle for cold weathers right? well i got a spare so i am lucky man

 

[sr_steve]

do you know what...... get a new battery or borrow it from your close msc friend. if its ok then do major service.

Good idea I'll give that a try and hope its that

 

[odd_ball]

Yeah, from the honest john link I'd say it could be throttle body so maybe try that first?

When reading your first post though, before getting to any replies, what crossed my mind was coils... Sounds like very similar behaviour to what my missus Clio was doing when one of the coils died... Does the car judder a lot?

If you know anyone else with a coilpack may be worth swapping out the coils, see if that changes anything then buy a new set. Originals can be quite expensive but non manufacturer ones are just as good & dirt cheap. I got a set of 4 for £30 on ebay...

Also, defo get a fuel filter fitted & fill up the coolant!

 

[odd_ball]

Yeah, from the honest john link I'd say it could be throttle body so maybe try that first?

When reading your first post though, before getting to any replies, what crossed my mind was coils... Sounds like very similar behaviour to what my missus Clio was doing when one of the coils died... Does the car judder a lot?

If you know anyone else with a coilpack may be worth swapping out the coils, see if that changes anything then buy a new set. Originals can be quite expensive but non manufacturer ones are just as good & dirt cheap. I got a set of 4 for £30 on ebay...

Also, defo get a fuel filter fitted & fill up the coolant!

 

[frank]

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Literally a perfect explanation for what mines doing. Spot on

you cant solder the maf on the coilpack models tho eh

 

[sr_steve]

Yeah, from the honest john link I'd say it could be throttle body so maybe try that first?

When reading your first post though, before getting to any replies, what crossed my mind was coils... Sounds like very similar behaviour to what my missus Clio was doing when one of the coils died... Does the car judder a lot?

If you know anyone else with a coilpack may be worth swapping out the coils, see if that changes anything then buy a new set. Originals can be quite expensive but non manufacturer ones are just as good & dirt cheap. I got a set of 4 for £30 on ebay...

It dosnt kidder a lot loses power than sometimes ragains it when foot flat so not sure also wouldn't it not missfire or do you think it could be all 4?
Also, defo get a fuel filter fitted & fill up the coolant!

you cant solder the maf on the coilpack models tho eh

Hmm so have you any idea what my problem could be then after reading it

 

[frank]

if its a maf fault on the coilpack models, they will drive ok when the maf is disconnected apparently steve

 

[r-reg-sr]

jk i got the thermo nuke wax also removed, doesnt effect cold idle , we can adjust you idle valve more for the cold start.

 

[jk9194]

jk i got the thermo nuke wax also removed, doesnt effect cold idle , we can adjust you idle valve more for the cold start.

Is it but my mate removed it so I didn't know that though. I think I should increase a bit up. Btw I can swap with my sr dial so I should get about 1000rpm right?

 

[jk9194]

Btw in cold mornings, I always lose the power. I don't know why

 

[frank]

Btw in cold mornings, I always lose the power. I don't know why

do you mean the engine stalls when cold jk ? and your is,nt coilpack is it ?

 

[Elonexx]

anyways steve, where are the pictures of your new automobile?

 

[Belly93]

Steve i have a spare maf sensor if you pop round ill try n dig it out

 

[sr_steve]

if its a maf fault on the coilpack models, they will drive ok when the maf is disconnected apparently steve

I disconnected the mad sensor I think. Highest one on throttle body? Still did the same thing

anyways steve, where are the pictures of your new automobile?

Pics will be up soon. Focusing on fixing it first lol

Steve i have a spare maf sensor if you pop round ill try n dig it out

I won't make it to yours mate once it starts doing.it its hard to keep going :/

 

[jk9194]

do you mean the engine stalls when cold jk ? and your is,nt coilpack is it ?

Yes frank... That is what I am trying to say....

Mine is not coil. Pre facelift.

 

[frank]

Yes frank... That is what I am trying to say....

Mine is not coil. Pre facelift.

then you need to set the idle mate, coilpack ones are totally different, polly has posted how-to,s on here and cisco,s

 

[Belly93]

Not get a lift?

 

[frank]

I disconnected the mad sensor I think.

its a vertical 5 pin plug on the side of the t/b steve

 

[jk9194]

then you need to set the idle mate, coilpack ones are totally different, polly has posted how-to,s on here and cisco,s

Now I get it. We put very low idle so It's very low idle ATM. I will set the idle tomorrow morning. Thanks for help frank

 

[sr_steve]

its a vertical 5 pin plug on the side of the t/b steve

Yep same happened. Could this be staring me in the face and be the missing fuel filter? Pipes blocked with dirt

Not get a lift?

Not get a lift?

Everyones at work mate. I dunno of it is maf cause I had 0 engine code and management light wasn't on until I in plugged it

 

[jk9194]

Steve, you should check this car before you buy it. How can you buy this car without coolant water and missy fuel filter etc?

 

[sr_steve]

I didn't notice them when I was buying it. Tbh I never checked the rad. But in dark I didn't spot fuelfilter.

 

[Belly93]

The maf doesnt always bring up codes mate

 

[frank]

there is a sock filter on the pump and one inside the topfeed injectors, so you may need to check they are still squirting ok steve

 

[r-reg-sr]

Now I get it. We put very low idle so It's very low idle ATM. I will set the idle tomorrow morning. Thanks for help frank

depends when this started,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, put the rev clocks in to see what your actualy doing (RPM) first before fidling. didnt you put your rev counter in yet ??

 

[jk9194]

depends when this started,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, put the rev clocks in to see what your actualy doing (RPM) first before fidling. didnt you put your rev counter in yet ??

I still got sr dial and aftermarket rev counter ( I haven't add this gauge yet but in soon)

I will use sr dial tomo so I can check with rpm then will set the idle properly.

 

[sr_steve]

The maf doesnt always bring up codes mate

Ah right. Erm I'll be in touch tomorrow then. Going to change plugs, put fuel filter on and get some of that injector and tube cleaner stuff.

there is a sock filter on the pump and one inside the topfeed injectors, so you may need to check they are still squirting ok steve

Ok thanks. Sorry for all the questions but what is the easiest way to check that?

 

[Belly93]

No bother

 

[frank]

Ok thanks. Sorry for all the questions but what is the easiest way to check that?

2 x 12mm nuts and lift the rail out mate, then point them at some card i guess

 

[r-reg-sr]

this is a serious game right here

 

[sr_steve]

2 x 12mm nuts and lift the rail out mate, then point them at some card i guess

Thanks a lot ill try that tomorrow

 

[Shamalam]

I'd try coils and getting the car up to standard. Mine runs beautifully now I've had the service and sorted the dodgy coilpacks. Mine was juddering quite a lot with massive fuel consumption until it warmed up. Then I got a couple scrap coilpacks and that sorted the issue. I'm in Gateshead later for a job interview, if I'm near by ill pop up and you can try mine if fancy?

 

[Shamalam]

And if my rev clocks fit you can use them too.