elvington
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yes i am happy with it to say the least. the tuned 172 owner wasnt very happy i told him my car was standard when i beat him by a couple of tenths 
SP is allready on the cards my friends are arranging it soon so i will report back when i get another set of times.
the only bad thing about elvington is the price's it was £45 for the day and £5 to hire a helmet.... and it there is restrictions on the sound of cars running no more than 103db can run they have to keep within this limit to keep running on elvington.
SP is allready on the cards my friends are arranging it soon so i will report back when i get another set of times.
the only bad thing about elvington is the price's it was £45 for the day and £5 to hire a helmet.... and it there is restrictions on the sound of cars running no more than 103db can run they have to keep within this limit to keep running on elvington.
paddymarsden
Iggy Iggy oooooooooo
isnt elvington the track where hammond crashed ?
good run
good run
a tuned one too.
and yeah it is where he crashed .probaly why i had to wear a helmet even tho i only got to 87mph
cheers
T
The Mad Hatter
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Hmmm, they're better than my times-is your car modified? I could only get a 16.7 @ 84mph from mine at the 'Pod on a dry but cold day-saying that my front tyres are well on the way out. What timing gear was used?
I'm finding that 15.87 a bit unbelievable though, especially as my mate in a 2.0 Focus running in the region of 150bhp at the wheels (dyno proven, just can't remember the exact figure) was only doing 15.9's on the same day as me at the 'Pod.
I posted about my day at the Pod in a thread further down.
I'm finding that 15.87 a bit unbelievable though, especially as my mate in a 2.0 Focus running in the region of 150bhp at the wheels (dyno proven, just can't remember the exact figure) was only doing 15.9's on the same day as me at the 'Pod.
I posted about my day at the Pod in a thread further down.
T
The Mad Hatter
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And another mate of mine in a 200bhp ST170 was doing 15.1's...
But are these on the same track? I'm also with the majority that they seem too fast however, you cannot compare different tracks (or quite often even the same tracks in different weather conditions).
Either that or this K12 has Nitrous which he is not telling about... lol
Either that or this K12 has Nitrous which he is not telling about... lol
T
The Mad Hatter
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I think Elvington's 1/4 mile is a bit short...
Think you need to bring it down the 'Pod mate, would be interesting running some back to back.
Think you need to bring it down the 'Pod mate, would be interesting running some back to back.
like i said i will be going to pod.
the mate i went with in his fiesta zeetec s (older shape) ran 16.00 all day too
elvington is pretty open if you havent been before and the wind on sunday at some points was 45mph (head wind) i dont think i ran at that point all my runs was early in the day before the sun got out properly.
you cant expect all 160sr's to run 16.8's all engines are different drivers and tracks,its hard to compare them all at the same time.
did you use your ESP? what tire pressures did you run?
the mate i went with in his fiesta zeetec s (older shape) ran 16.00 all day too
elvington is pretty open if you havent been before and the wind on sunday at some points was 45mph (head wind) i dont think i ran at that point all my runs was early in the day before the sun got out properly.
you cant expect all 160sr's to run 16.8's all engines are different drivers and tracks,its hard to compare them all at the same time.
did you use your ESP? what tire pressures did you run?
T
The Mad Hatter
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Turning ESP off doesn't make a difference, it doesn't turn the traction control off. Mine still kicks in (albeit not as aggressively) even with the ESP off.
Tyre pressures I was running about 30psi in the front, dropped them down from the manufacturers stated 34psi.
Appreciated that drivers (that was my first time at the Pod and with launching practise a hundreth or so could come off) and engines are different (mine is going on a rolling road in a couple of weeks) but not to the extent of nearly a second...my mate in the 200bhp + 170 reckons those times are a bit out as well.
But hey ho, we'll judge when you come to the Pod. Post up here when you're going and I'll come up, will be interesting running them back to back!
Tyre pressures I was running about 30psi in the front, dropped them down from the manufacturers stated 34psi.
Appreciated that drivers (that was my first time at the Pod and with launching practise a hundreth or so could come off) and engines are different (mine is going on a rolling road in a couple of weeks) but not to the extent of nearly a second...my mate in the 200bhp + 170 reckons those times are a bit out as well.
But hey ho, we'll judge when you come to the Pod.
Post up here when you're going and I'll come up, will be interesting running them back to back!
T
The Mad Hatter
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ESP=Electronic Skid Protection. Not traction control. Why then, even when I flick the ESP Off, do I feel the traction control cutting in when I hoof it in first on a dry road, or on a wet road in second, and does the TCS light go nuts flashing on the dashboard? It's also got an electronic diff, which does much the same job as a mechanical one, just not quite as well. Perhaps that's what you're thinking of. It still spins up, but not as manically as when I took the TCS fuse out...unfortunatly that also controls the power steering!
I haven't provoked the actual ESP into action while I've been driving-either I'm not brutal enough (but I do drive it quite hard-just not sideways...) or it's fairly unintrusive.
Driver aids p*ss me off anyway-I'd rather even not have ABS, especially as the Micra one seems a bit eager. But hey, normal driving, and it'll save skins.
its Electronic Stability Programme....lmao skid protection
it even says in the book it helps on snow and ice to give traction it cuts throttle when the wheels spin
you dont drive hard thats probably why you got 16.8 by looking after your car with slow changes etc
i will post the pic of timeslip up but what wil that prove? it could be anyones
i dont know what sort of people come onto this site but why do you think anyone would try to lie about a micra's quarter mile time.
it even says in the book it helps on snow and ice to give traction it cuts throttle when the wheels spin
you dont drive hard thats probably why you got 16.8 by looking after your car with slow changes etc
i will post the pic of timeslip up but what wil that prove? it could be anyones
i dont know what sort of people come onto this site but why do you think anyone would try to lie about a micra's quarter mile time.
tse_adam
Micra Attitude
come on son dont get into a bad mood, we're not accusing you of lying. its just i dont think this sort of time has ever been achieved by a bog standard k12 thats all.
post them results up then we can start saying to people our micras are doing 15s.......up yours! lol know what i mean?!
post them results up then we can start saying to people our micras are doing 15s.......up yours! lol know what i mean?!
Kirton
Renault Sport
LMAO!
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The Mad Hatter
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Alright alright I was having an offday! Lol!!!
Maybe a Santa Pod meet could be arranged, would be good to meet people off here and at the same time settle this.
Would be interesting to see Micra's of all sorts blatting up the strip.
T
The Mad Hatter
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Right, looked up the ESP out of interest in the manual. Turning the ESP off turns off:
-The traction control
-The ESP itself
However, the ABS and the Brake Limited Slip Differential (and the light will go spacco if this kicks in) still operate.
-The traction control
-The ESP itself
However, the ABS and the Brake Limited Slip Differential (and the light will go spacco if this kicks in) still operate.
T
The Mad Hatter
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Wheelspin is generally negative however a small amount CAN be good to stop the car bogging down (the Micra is not as bad for this as some admittedly due to the short gearing). The Focus I had before was bad for bogging, and not just off the line. The long gearing strangled it.
Trouble with traction control systems is they can go overboard on cutting the power so much you just end up bogging right down. The Micra's is too eager, especially when accelerating out of a tight, damp bend in second, it often cuts in when there's virtually no wheel slippage. In this instance, an on the ball human who can balance wheelspin with bogging down (as well as mechanical sympathy-how do you like your clutch slip?) I reckon would achieve better times than the blunt instrument of relying on traction control on a road car, which is geared toward safety first and the side of caution. Launch control, on the other hand...
But no, you're God, thou shalt listen.
Trouble with traction control systems is they can go overboard on cutting the power so much you just end up bogging right down. The Micra's is too eager, especially when accelerating out of a tight, damp bend in second, it often cuts in when there's virtually no wheel slippage. In this instance, an on the ball human who can balance wheelspin with bogging down (as well as mechanical sympathy-how do you like your clutch slip?) I reckon would achieve better times than the blunt instrument of relying on traction control on a road car, which is geared toward safety first and the side of caution. Launch control, on the other hand...
But no, you're God, thou shalt listen.
T
The Mad Hatter
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I guessed as much...Lol.
I'm gonna have a play around with mine tomorrow and see how well the launching is with it on/off under the exact same road/weather conditions.
I'm gonna have a play around with mine tomorrow and see how well the launching is with it on/off under the exact same road/weather conditions.
its best to see how it works in the wet.
its one thing less to think about on the line knowing your right foot is controlled by a computer
with more power i think it would bog down with esp on and you would have to srive it yourself for the best launch..
we will soon see as i have big plans and loads of stuff on its way..
its one thing less to think about on the line knowing your right foot is controlled by a computer
with more power i think it would bog down with esp on and you would have to srive it yourself for the best launch..
we will soon see as i have big plans and loads of stuff on its way..
